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re: Multiple studies showing vaccines CAN cause autism
Posted on 2/6/25 at 5:09 am to terriblegreen
Posted on 2/6/25 at 5:09 am to terriblegreen
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based on my research
My favorite line in these types of threads.
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Posted on 2/6/25 at 5:27 am to cwil177
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Are you fat? I definitely recommended it to my fat patients. Aside from fat, diabetic, or lung/heart disease it was very hard to predict during the first waves who would get really sick and who would do fine (original wave, omicron, delta, 2020-2022ish). I certainly recommended it back when mortality/morbidity was quite high. This is coming from someone who was very skeptical about taking it himself before looking into the studies.
I'm not fat, and she told me that she had everyone in her family take it as well. She's about 40, and based on office pics, has two young children.
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Most patients care about what I have to say as a physician, and never once have I had a patient call me a shill for big pharma or any such nonsense.
How would know what your patients call you? Are with all of them all of the time?
And you can stay on your high horse about covid all you want. We witnessed the medical community during covid.
I wish you the best, and hope you continue your mission of strictly doing what you think is best for your patients.
Posted on 2/6/25 at 5:32 am to SneezyBeltranIsHere
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fricking retarded shite like this, written and spoken by absolute idiots, represents the worst of our society.
I see posts on tOT every day (hell it might be one of my own posts*) that prove just how insightful David Dunning and Justin Kruger really were.
* I just try to take solace in the fact that in the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king even if that eye is only 20/200.
Posted on 2/6/25 at 5:47 am to Galactic Inquisitor
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Nobody. Literally nobody. It's YOUR weak strawman argument, chief. You support it.
Nobody except governments that he profits from
Posted on 2/6/25 at 6:45 am to tenderfoot tigah
74% of SIDS (Sudden Infant Death Syndrome) fatals received a vaccine the day they died.
You all also need to check out the graphs showing that vaccines actually do nothing for ending diseases. All of the graphs show release date of the vaccine and the fact that the epidemic rates were already subsiding.
If you need any other evidence look at other countries SIDS rates compared to ours. Then look at the vaccine schedule.
But good job poisoning your loved ones because someone who makes money off of every vial told you it was good to do.
You all also need to check out the graphs showing that vaccines actually do nothing for ending diseases. All of the graphs show release date of the vaccine and the fact that the epidemic rates were already subsiding.
If you need any other evidence look at other countries SIDS rates compared to ours. Then look at the vaccine schedule.
But good job poisoning your loved ones because someone who makes money off of every vial told you it was good to do.
Posted on 2/6/25 at 7:02 am to Grassy1
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And you can stay on your high horse about covid all you want. We witnessed the medical community during covid.
You read clippings put together by journalists to keep you engaged.
The worst part of this was seeing our hospital full of these patients and seeing them dropping in the ICU while this board was just sure of the hoax that was happening. I'm just glad I didn't have to directly care for these patients, I would have burned out hard.
A good friend of mine is in pulmonary/critical care and is certainly burned out as a result. Sad part is I think he can handle the deaths, but what crushed him was patient/family ignorance of their condition and insistence of his bad intentions. Maybe if he would have gotten all the kickbacks he was accused of he could at least enjoy himself more now, but would you believe he didn't get any extra money?
Short story is that I doubt you "witnessed" anything.
Posted on 2/6/25 at 7:35 am to tenderfoot tigah
Chicken pox cases have declined by like 97% in our lifetime because of a vaccine, and yet we still have to contend with people who literally don’t believe their own eyes.
Posted on 2/6/25 at 7:40 am to OysterPoBoy
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And polio.
lol, nobody's even gotten polio in 65 years.
Oh man
Posted on 2/6/25 at 7:40 am to PureBlood
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74% of SIDS (Sudden Infant Death Syndrome) fatals received a vaccine the day they died.
I don't understand how people see something from social media and then not just instantly believe it, but repeat it as fact without ever looking more into whether or not what they saw was actually true
Here is the study in which this misinterpreted quote comes from:
LINK
Here is the quote that keeps getting repeating and misinterpreted:
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For child death reports, 79.4% received >1 vaccine on the same day.
Pretty damning alone, but if you were to read that actual study, you would understand that the quote is stating that the child received >1 vaccine on the same day of vaccination, not the same day as death.
Here is what the report actually concluded:
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The 2149 deaths described in this study were reported to VAERS during a period of time when approximately 2 billion doses of vaccine were distributed for use in the United States. This translates to roughly 1 reported death per 1 million doses of vaccine distributed. Because the majority of death reports were in children, the most common causes of death were in this age group. SIDS was the leading cause of death (28.1%) among all reports and accounted for 51.7% of death reports in infants, which is consistent with infant mortality data that place SIDS as the third leading cause of death in the United States among infants
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Because SIDS peaks at a time when children are receiving many recommended vaccinations, it would not be unexpected to observe a coincidental close temporal relationship between vaccination and SIDS
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SIDS deaths in the United States have been declining since the early 1990s for a variety of factors that include recommended changes in sleeping position and environment, clarification of the case definition, and diagnostic coding shifts [19–22]. This downward trend in SIDS reports has also been observed in SIDS reports submitted to VAERS since the early 1990s [7] and has continued during the years of this review from 1997 through 2013. There is considerable evidence that vaccination is not causally associated with SIDS
Posted on 2/6/25 at 7:47 am to billjamin
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french benefits
Man i needed some of the laughs this thread so predictably gave me.
Posted on 2/6/25 at 7:51 am to PureBlood
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74% of SIDS (Sudden Infant Death Syndrome) fatals received a vaccine the day they died.
Objectively false
Posted on 2/6/25 at 7:56 am to PureBlood
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You all also need to check out the graphs showing that vaccines actually do nothing for ending diseases. All of the graphs show release date of the vaccine and the fact that the epidemic rates were already subsiding.
Man.
The sheer misinformation right here is bad, y’all.
Posted on 2/6/25 at 8:00 am to Gifman
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I believe getting the covid vaccine was the stupidest thing I've ever done.
I finally caved to the pressure of family and friends and got the vaccine back in 2020. I have had nothing but health issues since, mostly digestive related. I am not saying that is what caused it but my doctor said she has seen a massive increase of people with digestive issues since 2020.
Posted on 2/6/25 at 8:00 am to cwil177
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They learned a hell of a lot more about immunology in their schooling than you did, I would bet.
I never claimed to be an expert. I just claim there are better sources to go to when it comes to the questions.
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You… you think pediatricians are rolling in the dough because of vaccines?
Absolutely. Go research it on your own if you actually doubt it.
Posted on 2/6/25 at 8:07 am to notsince98
A private practice pediatrician makes less than $200k a year and works their arse off. Rolling in dough? Give me a frickin break.
This post was edited on 2/6/25 at 8:07 am
Posted on 2/6/25 at 8:14 am to tenderfoot tigah
Heckin love Gibbo dude is literally a patriot.
Posted on 2/6/25 at 8:20 am to notsince98
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I never claimed to be an expert.
Did you stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night?
Posted on 2/6/25 at 9:07 am to Whiznot
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Lawyer Aaron Siri deposed Kathryn Edwards of Vanderbilt considered the Godmother of vaccines. Edwards admitted under oath that she knew of no studies that showed autism wasn't caused by vaccines.
The simple study that should happen but never will - study the health of vaccinated kids vs the health of unvaccinated kids.
This is just ridiculous lawyer BS and conspiracy theory BS that this testimony means she believes vaccines cause autism. It's then turned into a clickbait article with a big headline and people only read the headline and then share about how vaccine expert admits vaccines cause autism when nothing could be further from the truth!
Dr. Kathryn Edwards explains why vaccines are safe.
Big gotcha moment explained.
Short version...She says vaccines are safe. Gotcha moment by attorney...
Siri: Were the clinical trials for the vaccines on the market today, were they designed to rule out that vaccines cause autism?
Edwards: No. You’ve badgered me into answering the question the way that you want me to.
Siri: Is that your accurate and truthful testimony?
Edwards: Yes.
The second word that Siri used to trip up Dr. Edwards was “cannot.”
Siri: Is it your testimony that the MMR vaccine cannot cause autism?
Edwards: That’s correct.
Siri: Is it your testimony that hep B vaccine cannot cause autism?
Edwards: That’s correct.
Siri then proceeded to ask the same question in the same way for the polio, Hib, varicella, pneumococcus, and diphtheria-tetanus-pertussis vaccines, each time eliciting the same answer. Siri knew that epidemiological studies, unlike mathematical theorems, aren’t proofs. They can only show that one event is associated with another at a certain level of statistical power.
This post was edited on 2/6/25 at 9:14 am
Posted on 2/6/25 at 9:32 am to BluegrassBelle
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You all also need to check out the graphs showing that vaccines actually do nothing for ending diseases. All of the graphs show release date of the vaccine and the fact that the epidemic rates were already subsiding.
Man.
The sheer misinformation right here is bad, y’all.
IKR! I truly wish some of these people could ask their great grandparents what they thought of polio, measles, mumps, and rubella or diptheria, tetanus, and whooping cough! People that experienced these diseases or had direct contact with those who experienced them do not hesitate at all to encourage vaccines. These same people lined up my generation (I'm in my early 60s) to get these vaccines as soon as possible and never considered any side effect because no side effect was worse than what they had seen from these viruses.
Posted on 2/6/25 at 9:39 am to tenderfoot tigah
Multiple studies and thousands of years of experience prove that measles, polio, and whooping cough can kill you and that mumps can sterilize kids.
I guess it's all about playing the odds, but most people think the non-vaccine option is worth it because they haven't seen kids die from those diseases. Consider this: when the Salk polio vaccine first became available it was a live-virus vaccine with a 1/1000 chance of those who took it getting the diseases from the vaccine. Parents still lined the block to get it for their kids. Why? Because they had seen the terror of their neighbors' kids going from perfectly healthy to dead in 72hrs or less.
I'm a fan of evolution, though, so proceed as you wish.
I guess it's all about playing the odds, but most people think the non-vaccine option is worth it because they haven't seen kids die from those diseases. Consider this: when the Salk polio vaccine first became available it was a live-virus vaccine with a 1/1000 chance of those who took it getting the diseases from the vaccine. Parents still lined the block to get it for their kids. Why? Because they had seen the terror of their neighbors' kids going from perfectly healthy to dead in 72hrs or less.
I'm a fan of evolution, though, so proceed as you wish.
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