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re: mRNA Vaccines Can Be Quickly Adjusted to Account for New Variants. Not So Fast My Friend!

Posted on 9/24/21 at 7:58 am to
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
175862 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 7:58 am to
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and people said the new formulas wouldn't need to be or required to be tested?


Many here suggested it could roll out the next day and stay ahead of the variant spreads. Basically like all the vaccine makers had to do was add a little cayenne pepper to it or something as if it were some unseasoned meat you returned to the kitchen.
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
22852 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 7:59 am to
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and people said the new formulas wouldn't need to be or required to be tested?

if so, those people are retarded



There are reports that they could “tweek” the formula under the EUA. Is that not true?
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
36951 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 8:00 am to
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If you don’t want the vaccine that’s fine.


That's not what the government and most of those that are vaccinated are saying.

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Why do you idiots have to come on here and make 30 new threads about it every day?


Because every day there's another government overreach happening in regards to the vaccine and you people are happily for it.

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The vaccine is beneficial to some people. Why do you have to constantly criticize it?


Because eventually we will all be forced to get it. Have you not been paying attention?

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Just live your life and let others do the same.


That's all we are asking.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85126 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 8:00 am to
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Many here suggested it could roll out the next day and stay ahead of the variant spreads


I've been a part of most of the vaccine threads on here (self cringe) and I haven't seen this

at least not "a ton" or "many here" like is being suggested

I feel like y'all are taking the argument of one person and compounding it out as some popular argument here
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25986 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 8:02 am to
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It's been a talking point about mRNA for months on this board. Don't play like it hasn't been.


I don’t recall ever seeing this case being made, but I am certain that the science behind newer vaccines will move much faster than the bureaucratic red tape around their approval and certification.
This post was edited on 9/24/21 at 8:04 am
Posted by TexasTiger1185
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2011
13136 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 8:04 am to
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Buddy of mine who got the Moderna got the Vid. Just about as bad as if no shot.


How could you possibly know it was as bad as if he didn’t get the shot?
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
175862 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 8:05 am to
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I've been a part of most of the vaccine threads on here (self cringe) and I haven't seen this


It happened, dude.

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the argument of one person


It was more than one person and it was even being discussed before the vaccines actually came out about how awesome mRNA is because of this "feature"
Posted by LoveThatMoney
Who knows where?
Member since Jan 2008
12281 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 8:05 am to
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This whole control narrative is cute. I get being against the vaccine and even questioning everything going on, but this point has got to go. Can you drive a car without a license? Registration? Can you turn left at a red stop light? Pick the speed at which you drive?
And that’s just a small portion of control dealing strictly with a vehicle.


It’s funny the people all skeptical of the “fear porn” being used to “control” us are in fact using “fear porn” about being “controlled.”

Let that sink in.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54697 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 8:07 am to
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Many here suggested it could roll out the next day
With so many having said this, surely you can locate one example. Surely you aren’t exaggerating.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
84097 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 8:07 am to
I do think there will be POSITIVE unintended consequences of this vaccine in numerous areas of healthcare and science . That’s the up side and it will be remarkable imho. The down side is this ridiculous anti- American uptick in mandates and directives that directly usurp Constitutional protections in both letter and spirit. And the reinforcement of the sheep psychology which turns a random Karen PTA member/ nurse into a fanatical member of the mob.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
20330 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 8:08 am to
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I am certain that the science behind the vaccines will move much faster than the bureaucratic red tape around their approval and


This. It sounds like they've already got a formula for delta, and they're getting a headstart on the next one. It sounds like more people ITT are upset with the government for requiring additional testing. Do we want instantly changing formulas to combat variants, or do we want tested vaccines?

Some people are upset that the vaccine was "rushed" because it came out in a year. Now we're mad because they're testing a change in the formula?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282854 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 8:09 am to
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using “fear porn” about being “controlled.”


Normal people dislike being controlled.

Soft fricks love it, because it punishes the other guy.
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
36951 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 8:09 am to
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free


Lol
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85126 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 8:10 am to
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It was more than one person and it was even being discussed before the vaccines actually came out about how awesome mRNA is because of this "feature"


I do think that mRNA vaccines can be adjusted quite easily and that feature is quite amazing

but I don't know why anyone would assume or argue that they wouldn't need to be tested first

and I don't been tested for safety, but for efficacy



Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25986 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 8:10 am to
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It’s funny the people all skeptical of the “fear porn” being used to “control” us are in fact using “fear porn” about being “controlled.”


The weird part is that they don’t need to make nonsensical arguments about vaccines to prove the point that government overreach is a problem. Just look at the bank account tracking thread on the OT. That should set off all the alarms.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
175862 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 8:10 am to
Yea dude because I bookmarked all of that shite over the past 18 months and this board also has a stellar search function.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282854 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 8:11 am to
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to prove the point that government overreach is a problem.


Half the people ITT don't believe that. That's the problem.

They'll choose overreach when it supports a position they prefer
This post was edited on 9/24/21 at 8:12 am
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85126 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 8:12 am to
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I do think there will be POSITIVE unintended consequences of this vaccine in numerous areas of healthcare and science . That’s the up side and it will be remarkable imho.


I think this is an overlooked thing about this vaccine rollout

We have likely jumped ahead several decades in vaccine development over the last 18 months, and that is truly remarkable

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he down side is this ridiculous anti- American uptick in mandates and directives that directly usurp Constitutional protections in both letter and spirit. And the reinforcement of the sheep psychology which turns a random Karen PTA member/ nurse into a fanatical member of the mob.


no argument here

Posted by Gordon Hayward
Member since Jun 2016
1368 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 8:15 am to
Main groups not getting the vaccine now are lower middle class white people and black people. Ironically the 2 demographics that live in a world of “conspiracy.” They don’t care about covid. They are unhappy with their lives and want something to blame it on - ie. the government, taxes, oxygen, their next door neighbor’s garden, Taco Bell, slip n slides and cow shite.
Posted by td1
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
3080 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 8:18 am to
I for one am glad that we are currently injecting a “vaccine” designed to protect against the first strain that really isn’t the problems now. It is also comforting to know that our current strain, Delta, will be available for vax sometime in 2022.

They shite all over HCQ and Iver, Bc it’s not a cure and being used off label, but mandate you get a vax for a strain that is not even the dominant strain anymore. Bc, why, it may lessen your symptoms.

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