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re: Most patriotic states: per WalletHub
Posted on 6/25/19 at 9:03 am to TH03
Posted on 6/25/19 at 9:03 am to TH03
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Just like the war was about general states rights and not slavery.
I’m not arguing about the why of the war, I’m arguing about the fact that you call them traitors when the right to secede was not questioned in the antebellum era, it was taught in the United States Military Academy. New York, Rhode Island, and Virginia all declared that they wouldn’t ratify the constitution unless the right to secede was guaranteed.
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Posted on 6/25/19 at 9:05 am to TigerFanInSouthland
They were traitors who took up arms against the USA.
The only people who argue otherwise do so to romanticize their traitorous Confederate ancestors who fought to keep humans as property.
The only people who argue otherwise do so to romanticize their traitorous Confederate ancestors who fought to keep humans as property.
Posted on 6/25/19 at 9:06 am to StupidBinder
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I’m suspect that if you had a bunch of white, black or Asian people living there who couldn’t join the military, vote, or participate in civic activity, they’d still be at the bottom of the list.
Sure, if they were illegal immigrants as well...illegal immigrants who can't do any of the above because they're, well, illegal.
Posted on 6/25/19 at 9:06 am to TigerFanInSouthland
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I’m not arguing about the why of the war, I’m arguing about the fact that you call them traitors when the right to secede was not questioned in the antebellum era, it was taught in the United States Military Academy. New York, Rhode Island, and Virginia all declared that they wouldn’t ratify the constitution unless the right to secede was guaranteed.
It is too bad they attacked US government property and started a war.
Posted on 6/25/19 at 9:07 am to GetCocky11
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Cowpens
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King’s Mountain
Got ancestors that fought on the good guys’ side in both these engagements.
Posted on 6/25/19 at 9:08 am to TH03
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The only people who argue otherwise do so to romanticize their traitorous Confederate ancestors who fought to keep humans as property.
Nah, my ancestor from the civil war fought for the union. Was a prisoner at Andersonville as well.
It will always be the War of Northern Aggression.
Posted on 6/25/19 at 9:08 am to SpqrTiger
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So the state that kicked off the Civil War comes in at number eight. Interesting.
We knew what was right then, we know what is right now. Overreach by the federal government is not American.
Posted on 6/25/19 at 9:09 am to TH03
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They were traitors who took up arms against the USA.
So every country that the US has ever gone to war with are traitors?
Posted on 6/25/19 at 9:09 am to Centinel
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will always be the War of Northern Aggression
This phrase is so stupid.
The south attacked first.
They were the aggressors.
Posted on 6/25/19 at 9:10 am to Centinel
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It will always be the War of Northern Aggression
How can it be this is the south fired first?
Posted on 6/25/19 at 9:10 am to GetCocky11
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It is too bad they attacked US government property and started a war.
It is, and the rest is history. War or no war, i firmly believe that they’d have gone back into the Union sooner or later.
Posted on 6/25/19 at 9:11 am to PsychTiger
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Overreach by the federal government is not American.
How did the feds overreach?
The South seceded because their guy lost the Presidential election.
Posted on 6/25/19 at 9:11 am to TigerFanInSouthland
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So every country that the US has ever gone to war with are traitors?
Were they a part of the US?
You're failing quite hard at the smartass game.
Posted on 6/25/19 at 9:12 am to TH03
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You're failing quite hard at the smartass game.
He's missing half the required components to succeed at it.
Posted on 6/25/19 at 9:16 am to TH03
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How can it be this is the south fired first?
A simple misunderstanding that people blew way out of proportion.
Posted on 6/25/19 at 9:19 am to TH03
We’ll just have to disagree on this then.
Posted on 6/25/19 at 9:28 am to Wtodd
How can ANY northern state be partriotic. That's where most of the pinkos hang out, isn't it?
Posted on 6/25/19 at 9:31 am to Centinel
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Sure, if they were illegal immigrants as well...illegal immigrants who can't do any of the above because they're, well, illegal.
Yes.
So why not call them illegal immigrants? Being “messicans” as you put it isn’t particularly descriptive when trying to understand why they’re pulling down Texas’ rank.
Posted on 6/25/19 at 9:33 am to Centinel
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We did a staff ride to Cowpens when I was in SCCC
Fort Gordon?
I did a staff ride there during ROTC.
I actually grew up 15 miles from the battlefield and when I was in high school I used to take training rides to the battlefield and ride laps around the road that circled it. I rode several thousand miles there during those three years.
GetCocky mentioned the good job that NPC does there, they have taken great pains to keep the foliage as close as possible to the way it was in 1781.
Posted on 6/25/19 at 9:35 am to Obtuse1
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Fort Gordon?
Yup.
It's why I live here in South Carolina. Met my wife when I was at Gordon for BOLC and moved here after I got out.
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