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re: More credence to the theory that this virus was in the United States as early as December
Posted on 4/22/20 at 7:41 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 4/22/20 at 7:41 am to SlowFlowPro
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California likely already hit its peak and it wasn't that bad
Yep.
I’d be eager to see the epidemiological equivalent to the after action report explaining why LA and NYC has such different outcomes.
Posted on 4/22/20 at 7:43 am to Volvagia
i posted about that this morning
i am curious if the China strain Cali got and the Euro strain NYC got were different
INJECT THAT CHINA COVID IN MY VEINS NOW
i am curious if the China strain Cali got and the Euro strain NYC got were different
INJECT THAT CHINA COVID IN MY VEINS NOW
Posted on 4/22/20 at 7:49 am to baldona
Doesn’t matter. Someone on Feb 6 had covid. They probably weren’t the person that brought it here either.
It’s been here longer than experts have been believing.
It’s been here longer than experts have been believing.
Posted on 4/22/20 at 7:50 am to Volvagia
I truly think the difference in outcomes and spread is due to life styles between CA and NYC. I mean just look at population densities and the prevalence of automobiles
Posted on 4/22/20 at 8:02 am to Pintail
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That is on par with the rest of the Covid deaths. Why not this one?
Is that what OAN is telling you these days?
Posted on 4/22/20 at 8:16 am to AUsteriskPride
Not as severe but our family did likewise during Christmas season. Was particularly concerned with my wife and she showed negative for the flu. I believe we experienced it.
Posted on 4/22/20 at 8:16 am to baldona
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Straight from the top of the article. So much bullshite going on. Did Covid kill the person or did they die with it? For all we know from the article they died of a heart attack but they had asymptomatic Covid.
I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that if someone died of an heart attack that it would already be known.
But beyond that, that wasn't the point of the article. The article was to show that this virus has indeed already been here longer than what was previously speculated.
Posted on 4/22/20 at 8:18 am to RollTide1987
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More credence to the theory that this virus was in the United States as early as Decemberquote:
The earliest of which died on February 6
That's quite a leap you make there. I'll agree this was circulating more than anyone realized early on, but until there is actual evidence of someone having it in December it's just a theory with nothing backing it up.
Posted on 4/22/20 at 8:19 am to QJenk
I’m trying to figure out how all these Covid positive people died at home from Covid? That was my point. Makes a lot more sense they died of a heart attack or stroke or something else that’s a quicker death.
NYC is trying to do the same thing, reclassify a bunch of deaths from people that didn’t make it to the hospital. Why aren’t people sick and having a hard time breathing for days not making it to the hospital?
NYC is trying to do the same thing, reclassify a bunch of deaths from people that didn’t make it to the hospital. Why aren’t people sick and having a hard time breathing for days not making it to the hospital?
Posted on 4/22/20 at 8:21 am to ashy larry
quote:It isn't that big of a leap. Someone dieing with the illness in early February, indicates that they likely contracted it in January. It isn't a big leap to assume it was circulating a month or more before the first death. Given that it was in China in October, it is likely it made it to the US by the end of December.
That's quite a leap you make there.
This post was edited on 4/22/20 at 8:23 am
Posted on 4/22/20 at 8:21 am to baldona
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Straight from the top of the article. So much bullshite going on. Did Covid kill the person or did they die with it? For all we know from the article they died of a heart attack but they had asymptomatic Covid.
Sure, but the most important thing here is the proof that the virus was here much earlier than previously confirmed and therefore likely far more widespread than thought. It means the death rate is probably lower and way more people have been exposed which helps us get closer to herd immunity.
Posted on 4/22/20 at 8:21 am to RollTide1987
We're almost certain my dad, in Covington, had it in early January. All the symptoms, Dr chalked it up as pneumonia, but chest xrays looked negative. Doc couldn't figure it out. Bed ridden for 9 days. Lost like 20 lbs
Posted on 4/22/20 at 8:22 am to baldona
Also, people really don’t understand there’s other virus’s going around all the time that are not Covid or Influenza. Everyone sick this winter that’s negative with the flu thinks they had Covid, when in reality the testing has proven that something like 60-75% of people are testing negative for Covid even with the symptoms.
Now I’m not convinced our testing isn’t fricked and throwing a bunch of false negatives or positives. But that’s a different story. Even with bad testing, most people that think they had Covid are testing as negative.
Now I’m not convinced our testing isn’t fricked and throwing a bunch of false negatives or positives. But that’s a different story. Even with bad testing, most people that think they had Covid are testing as negative.
Posted on 4/22/20 at 8:23 am to bigpapamac
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Sure, but the most important thing here is the proof that the virus was here much earlier than previously confirmed and therefore likely far more widespread than thought. It means the death rate is probably lower and way more people have been exposed which helps us get closer to herd immunity.
If this is legit, absolutely agree. It’s out of San Francisco and libs are fighting each other over who is the worst off. I’m not convinced there’s not a lot of frickery going on here.
Posted on 4/22/20 at 8:25 am to PearlJam
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Someone dieing with the illness in early February, indicates that they likely contracted it in January. It isn't a big leap to assume it was circulating a month or more before the first death. Given that it was in China in October, it is likely it made it to the US by the end of December.
We don’t know if he died of it or with it. If he died with it, he could have easily contracted it in early February and then died of a heart attack. If he died of it then yes he likely got it 2-3 weeks prior. Lot of big IFs though.
Posted on 4/22/20 at 8:26 am to RollTide1987
My husband attended the NADA conference in Vegas At the end of January. A few days after he returned he had a horrible dry cough but no other symptoms. A week after that, I had a dry cough so intense my chest, back and throat hurt from all the coughing. It last about 5 days but then developed bronchitis that lasted for over 7 weeks and I had to use an inhaler during that time.
M convinced we both had it already.
M convinced we both had it already.
Posted on 4/22/20 at 8:27 am to baldona
quote:And what did i say?
We don’t know if he died of it or with it.
quote:He could have, but, as I said, since he died Feb 6, it is likely he contracted it in January.
If he died with it, he could have easily contracted it in early February and then died of a heart attack.
Posted on 4/22/20 at 8:28 am to AUsteriskPride
quote:Other than my wife going to an urgent care but not hospitalized, almost the same thing happened to my son (ER on Christmas with “croup”) and wife (negative flu test, mid December).
My son was in ICU over Christmas with "croup", then a week later my wife ended up in the hospital with flu like symptoms.
It was just in December of 2016.
Posted on 4/22/20 at 8:32 am to fishfighter
quote:same. Also read what Broke wrote about on here with his experience.
know one thing. Back in Dec and into Jan, the wife and I had a dry cough for a good 30 days. Both were tested for Flu which was a neg. It kicked our arse big time
My wife had it bad. Could hardly get out of bed for a few days, trouble breathing and she went to the dr 3 or 4x and all they prescribed was steroids because they couldn't find a reason to give her antibiotics. Flu test negative.
She spent the better part of January fighting it off and we just found out her dad was deathly ill in the same timeframe (we had all gotten together for Christmas) but refused to tell us because he's bull-headed.
Posted on 4/22/20 at 8:32 am to AUsteriskPride
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We're all anxious to get our hands on an antibody test.
Don’t be. I was certain I had it. Mardi Gras day I got super sick in a Georgia and it’s was severe respiratory that lingered for two weeks. I’ve never had prior respiratory sicknesses .
I am flying to Mexico via private plane Monday for work and a we had the antibody test done in Covington last week. We all came back negative .
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