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re: Mississippi and Hurricane Katrina: the forgotten Landmass
Posted on 8/25/15 at 8:37 am to Gaston
Posted on 8/25/15 at 8:37 am to Gaston
I recall Mississippi getting hit harder during another hurricane? Andrew? Gustav? Ivan? The all kind of run together. The levees flooding a mid major city is extremely relevant. Heck, I'm a yankee and I can remember the helicopter shots of the SuperDome (really eye opening experience for me), and just the rooftops popping out of the mass pool of water with the occasional person sitting on top.
Lots of places are forgotten during storms and floods.
-Very few remembers the Nashville flood.
-Very few remembers the Mississippi river flood of 2011.
Lots of places are forgotten during storms and floods.
-Very few remembers the Nashville flood.
-Very few remembers the Mississippi river flood of 2011.
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Posted on 8/25/15 at 8:47 am to Forkbeard3777
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Even though Mississippi lost 235 people to the storm, they didn't have those eye catching videos of helicopters plucking desperate people off rooftops
Because there were no houses left on the coast. No rooftops to be plucked from
Posted on 8/25/15 at 8:53 am to Ed Osteen
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They recovered much quicker due to not having LA politics intervene
Would you like me to take you for a tour of empty lots? Insurance costs are astronomical still, and many people have been unable to move back.
Posted on 8/25/15 at 8:55 am to BigDawg0420
I'm sure nobody will even talk about Rita.
I know the damage on the coast was way worse than New Orleans. The coast was hit by a hurricane. New Orleans was hit by a failed levee system.
The difference was on the coast a person's house was destroyed completely and they could remove debris immediately and start building again in a reasonable time. In New Orleans you had people's houses under water for quite some time with no way to get there to do anything about it. People were not able to return right away like on the coast. Plus they had a major FEMA dump site at Stennis helping the surrounding areas. In New Orleans that dump site was supposed to be Jazzland which was under water.
I know the damage on the coast was way worse than New Orleans. The coast was hit by a hurricane. New Orleans was hit by a failed levee system.
The difference was on the coast a person's house was destroyed completely and they could remove debris immediately and start building again in a reasonable time. In New Orleans you had people's houses under water for quite some time with no way to get there to do anything about it. People were not able to return right away like on the coast. Plus they had a major FEMA dump site at Stennis helping the surrounding areas. In New Orleans that dump site was supposed to be Jazzland which was under water.
Posted on 8/25/15 at 9:03 am to Catman88
I got back to my house Wednesday after the storm. The people who stuck around looked like zombies and we were open carrying just in case any of them went crazy under the stress. Within 10 days we had a tractor at the house and had the flooring and sheetrock (and appliances, drawers, bathrooms...) ripped out and into a giant pile. Things slowed down until I was called back to work at Michoud, when they opened the twin spans (single span then), and I got a FEMA camper.
Nothing like the levee breaches with dead people floating around and no one doing a damn thing about it. A dead body wouldn't have made it a day in BSL without someone doing something. There was at least humanity in the chaos.
Nothing like the levee breaches with dead people floating around and no one doing a damn thing about it. A dead body wouldn't have made it a day in BSL without someone doing something. There was at least humanity in the chaos.
Posted on 8/25/15 at 9:03 am to GetCocky11
No offense to MS, but the consequences there were far less severe. Yes, they were physically hammered, but when the smoke settled, about 300 MS businesses no longer existed. The number in NOLA was over 2000, the result of marinating in water for several months.
I do miss the MS disc golf courses, though. Paul B. Johnson Park was one of my favorites.
I do miss the MS disc golf courses, though. Paul B. Johnson Park was one of my favorites.
Posted on 8/25/15 at 9:12 am to Ed Osteen
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most people in this country have no idea where Bay St. Louis or other MS coastal towns are located.
I prefer to keep it that way. The MS coast is a hidden gem. What's sad is there are stretches between Biloxi and Pass Christian that will never recover, pieces of history completely that cannot be replaced.
Posted on 8/25/15 at 9:23 am to Y.A. Tittle
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Much of the coast area is still a freaking wasteland.
Was over there a couple of months ago, in Long Beach. GF's childhood home is not even a slab. the streets that ran perpendicular to the beach, that once were lined with small homes, now have maybe 2-3 houses per block. Of course, the big houses that fronted the beach have mostly been rebuilt.
Posted on 8/25/15 at 9:31 am to Mung
Pics or it didn't happen.
Posted on 8/25/15 at 10:38 am to bamarep
what is really sad to me about the Mississippi Gulf Coast is in 2005, they were finally recovered from Camille (1969)....
Posted on 8/25/15 at 10:52 am to GetCocky11
Parts of the MS gulf coast got blown off the face of the earth. By Tuesday morning, the water had receded, and recovery began.
Tuesday morning in NOLA, the water was still rising, and the situation was getting worse. The situation continued to get worse until probably Friday when large scale evacs of the stranded finally began.
I would not think MS was "forgotten" per se. I would say that Katrina probably caused the two worst natural disaster situations in current times. What happened in MS was worthy of years of global coverage. Unfortunately, it paled in comparison to what happened in NOLA at the very same time.
Tuesday morning in NOLA, the water was still rising, and the situation was getting worse. The situation continued to get worse until probably Friday when large scale evacs of the stranded finally began.
I would not think MS was "forgotten" per se. I would say that Katrina probably caused the two worst natural disaster situations in current times. What happened in MS was worthy of years of global coverage. Unfortunately, it paled in comparison to what happened in NOLA at the very same time.
Posted on 8/25/15 at 10:53 am to Gaston
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I got back to my house Wednesday after the storm.
That's the big difference in all of this. You couldn't even get back into places like Chalmette and Lower St. Bernard until almost October.
Posted on 8/25/15 at 10:54 am to bamarep
go look at Long Beach on GoogleEarth
West Ave and surrounding area
West Ave and surrounding area
This post was edited on 8/25/15 at 10:58 am
Posted on 8/25/15 at 11:01 am to GetCocky11
NOLA was such a disaster because Mayor Wonka and Cathline Blankstare were in a pissing contest and were trying to make each other look bad. Damn shame the citizens had to suffer.
Posted on 8/25/15 at 11:23 am to DHS1997
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NOLA was such a disaster because Mayor Wonka and Cathline Blankstare were in a pissing contest and were trying to make each other look bad. Damn shame the citizens had to suffer.
Local leadership blew it first. Blanco didn't help anything and then the Feds sat on their fricking hands for 3 days after people were floating in the streets. It was a massive failure at all levels. Also keep in mind the water didn't even start going down until over a week from landfall.
Posted on 8/25/15 at 11:39 am to LSUFanHouston
Nola had become a sunken wasteland
MSGulf Coast look like an atomic bomb hit. There was a casino that washed across the road. I remember going to my HS and there were body bags in the bleachers of our stadium. There were some condos behind our football field where 35 feet up on top of the building people had tried to hack through the ceiling to get on the roof. The storm surge was absolutely incredible
MSGulf Coast look like an atomic bomb hit. There was a casino that washed across the road. I remember going to my HS and there were body bags in the bleachers of our stadium. There were some condos behind our football field where 35 feet up on top of the building people had tried to hack through the ceiling to get on the roof. The storm surge was absolutely incredible
Posted on 8/25/15 at 11:44 am to Ed Osteen
quote:Yep. The city that is easily flooded and people are too stupid to evacuate when told to do so. Everyone knows about New Orleans.
Everybody knows about New Orleans
Posted on 8/25/15 at 11:50 am to htownjeep
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Yep. The city that is easily flooded and people are too stupid to evacuate when told to do so. Everyone knows about New Orleans.
Easily flooded..... that's why it's only happened twice in the last 100 years.
Also, for the Mississippi crowd that likes to say this shite. How fricking dumb must you be to build so close to the Gulf where you KNOW you're going to wiped out at some point? See how easy that is?
This post was edited on 8/25/15 at 11:52 am
Posted on 8/25/15 at 11:53 am to MightyYat
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Yep. The city that is easily flooded and people are too stupid to evacuate when told to do so. Everyone knows about New Orleans.
Easily flooded..... that's why it's only happened twice in the last 100 years.
Also, for the Mississippi crowd that likes to say this shite. How fricking dumb must you be to build so close to the Gulf where you KNOW you're going to wiped out at some point? See how easy that is?
Not to mention all the people who drowned in Mississippi..god what idiots, why didnt they evacuate! Can't have any sympathy for them now!
That's how fricking dumb you sound sayign that shite
This post was edited on 8/25/15 at 12:01 pm
Posted on 8/25/15 at 12:02 pm to GetCocky11
I agree 100% that the media did not recognize the MS gulf coast. New Orleans got most of the attention.
Katrina left a path of death and descruction that didn't seek out borders, race or income. It was an equal opportunity annihilator. The difference was the aftermath. MS began picking up the pieces shortly after Katrina purred well northeast of landfall. And for that, they should be commended. Also left out were the other cities and townships in southern LA not named New Orleans that worked equally as hard to get their families and lives back in order. I also remember Rita slamming the western side of LA with category 3 winds just weeks after Katrina. You didn't hear much about those folks either.
Katrina left a path of death and descruction that didn't seek out borders, race or income. It was an equal opportunity annihilator. The difference was the aftermath. MS began picking up the pieces shortly after Katrina purred well northeast of landfall. And for that, they should be commended. Also left out were the other cities and townships in southern LA not named New Orleans that worked equally as hard to get their families and lives back in order. I also remember Rita slamming the western side of LA with category 3 winds just weeks after Katrina. You didn't hear much about those folks either.
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