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re: Missing 18 year old's body found on Horn Island - and ridiculous reactions.
Posted on 7/27/26 at 1:35 pm to AlwysATgr
Posted on 7/27/26 at 1:35 pm to AlwysATgr
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Someone clarify, but how the heck can a non-LEO (lawyer) direct other private citizens what they must do with their private property sans a judge's warrant?
Its a preservation letter. Pretty common in civil litigation through the laws on spoliation of evidence.
The letter itself doesn't actual compel you to do anything. But its notice of impending litigation, which means you can get hit with a spoliation claim if you get rid of potential evidence.
Posted on 7/27/26 at 2:15 pm to 257WBY
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I’m skeptical of the audio, but have yet to see where it has been ruled fake
They haven't ruled on anything, fake or otherwise. But I can go ahead and solve this for you: It's fake.
Posted on 7/27/26 at 2:18 pm to bayouvette
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There is no way Nolan would be on that boat and no one saw when they left the island surrounded by 100s of boats. None of what they are trying to say makes any sense and no proof to back it up. Just dumb being dumb. Never been on water, in a boat, or at an island party.
At the moment that call was made and recorded, there were hundreds of people and dozens of boats within site of them.
The idea that there was a dead kid laying there and they are all screaming and yelling and no one saw it, is so fricking ridiculous that I feel dumb even addressing the absurdity.
Posted on 7/27/26 at 2:23 pm to Indefatigable
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The letter itself doesn't actual compel you to do anything. But its notice of impending litigation, which means you can get hit with a spoliation claim if you get rid of potential evidence.
I'm not a lawyer, but it's my understanding that a spoilation claim has very little teeth and can only really hurt the person being sued. So anyone on the periphery that received these letters has no obligation to keep or preserve anything. And the people in the center of it don't really have to, but it would potentially look bad at trial.
Like hypothetically, they were planning on selling their boat after the summer was over. The idea that they couldn't sell it because of some POTENTIAL lawsuit that may or may not happen sometime in the future is ridiculous.
Posted on 7/27/26 at 2:24 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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I'm not a lawyer, but it's my understanding that a spoilation claim has very little teeth and can only really hurt the person being sued. So anyone on the periphery that received these letters has no obligation to keep or preserve anything. And the people in the center of it don't really have to, but it would potentially look bad at trial. Like hypothetically, they were planning on selling their boat after the summer was over. The idea that they couldn't sell it because of some POTENTIAL lawsuit that may or may not happen sometime in the future is ridiculous.
You’re right they are mostly toothless and rarely used or applicable.
I was just pointing out that it’s pretty common for the other poster that was unaware.
Posted on 7/27/26 at 2:50 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
Right. They act like the found a gotcha question. But never decided to think about it first.
Posted on 7/27/26 at 4:12 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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At the moment that call was made and recorded, there were hundreds of people and dozens of boats within site of them.
The idea that there was a dead kid laying there and they are all screaming and yelling and no one saw it, is so fricking ridiculous that I feel dumb even addressing the absurdity.
And the idea that every single person on that boat, 7 people I think, are keeping this big lie together when this case has exploded like it has, is simply not believable. And I'm assuming that every one of them has been interviewed by police.
This post was edited on 7/27/26 at 4:16 pm
Posted on 7/27/26 at 4:19 pm to Vacherie Saint
TMZ is running with “some people” are claiming to hear the boys talk about Nolan being dead in the phone call about the boat sinking. I guess framing it that way absolves them from defamation. Meanwhile, eyewitnesses saw him alive on the island much later than that call. The whole thing is so tiresome.
Posted on 7/27/26 at 4:20 pm to DrrTiger
Fewer than 300 to go!
LFG
LFG
Posted on 7/27/26 at 5:21 pm to TygerLyfe
March for Nolan yesterday and the media reported that Dozens were there.
Bunch of shite stirrers.
Bunch of shite stirrers.
Posted on 7/27/26 at 8:16 pm to DrrTiger
These people are fishing for clicks.
TMZ is running the fake AI audio, that has them talking about Nolan being dead.
Then another story about how Nolan was still on the island after they left.
Complete contradiction.
Nancy Grace is also running the fake audio.
TMZ is running the fake AI audio, that has them talking about Nolan being dead.
Then another story about how Nolan was still on the island after they left.
Complete contradiction.
Nancy Grace is also running the fake audio.
Posted on 7/27/26 at 9:07 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
Part of the problem with this whole case is , not enough people have experienced boating plus party community out on water. I had a boat or had friends with boats and did this stuff every summer a few times on either the Arkansas river Little Rock island or Lake Hamilton in Hot Springs for about 10 years. I only saw a handful of blacks in all that time probably b/c they usually can't swim.
The ratio of people with experience in that exact thing vs the general public has to be like 10 to 20%. One thing that I think is overlooked is how fast the sun can wear you down being in it 4 hours when you're socializing, let alone drinking too. I've swam the area about like circling a football field a few times around boats and when I got back to the boat was a lot weaker and more light headed than I thought i'd be and I had to work to keep my head above water b/c a boat that left 5 minutes ago can push a wave over your head.
The ratio of people with experience in that exact thing vs the general public has to be like 10 to 20%. One thing that I think is overlooked is how fast the sun can wear you down being in it 4 hours when you're socializing, let alone drinking too. I've swam the area about like circling a football field a few times around boats and when I got back to the boat was a lot weaker and more light headed than I thought i'd be and I had to work to keep my head above water b/c a boat that left 5 minutes ago can push a wave over your head.
Posted on 7/27/26 at 10:36 pm to Funky Tide 8
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And the idea that every single person on that boat, 7 people I think, are keeping this big lie together when this case has exploded like it has, is simply not believable. And I'm assuming that every one of them has been interviewed by police.
Going after his friends who left the island is the most ridiculous thing to me. These boys clearly didn’t have anything to do with Nolan’s death nor did they witness it. Wasting time on this because of a race narrative.
Posted on 7/28/26 at 6:46 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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TMZ is running the fake AI audio, that has them talking about Nolan being dead.
Mainstream sites running with that audio as pseudo-facts should be punishable.
It’s ridiculous. I listened to that the audio and it’s like that brainstorm or green needle video; you can make yourself hear whatever you want to hear.
Posted on 7/28/26 at 7:03 am to Bjorn Cyborg
From my digging. The audio isn't fake. But whether, the transcription to go along with the audio is fake. You have to listen to the audio by itself, because whoever tried to transcribe it is very biased.
There's various words or phrases that you can clearly make out in the audio. The rest of it you have to guess and infer. At no point can you ever clearly hear the name "Nolan" at all. At no point can you clearly hear "you killed him".
I've listened to it multiple times with my headphones on to the loudest volume. It sounds like the kids were actively trying to figure out whatever boating issue they were having. Which would make sense, since one of the boys were actively on the phone with a sea towing company.
There's various words or phrases that you can clearly make out in the audio. The rest of it you have to guess and infer. At no point can you ever clearly hear the name "Nolan" at all. At no point can you clearly hear "you killed him".
I've listened to it multiple times with my headphones on to the loudest volume. It sounds like the kids were actively trying to figure out whatever boating issue they were having. Which would make sense, since one of the boys were actively on the phone with a sea towing company.
Posted on 7/28/26 at 7:20 am to QJenk
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sounds like the kids
This is exactly what a bunch of drunk kids would sound like, trying to rapidly load and leave on a boat taking on water. Some calm, some laughing, others working, and others panicking
Been there, done that. Had a camp and had boat full my whole life, skiing and offshore fishing. Including taking on water 50+ miles out.
This is exactly what I'd expect to hear
I think the key is the girl he stayed with. Why on Earth is her group not being blamed for leaving him. Thats who matters, people that were still there. Its obvious he stayed behind
Posted on 7/28/26 at 7:31 am to ChatGPT of LA
has it been verified that young Nolan knew how to swim?
Posted on 7/28/26 at 7:35 am to I-59 Tiger
Yes. He knew how to swim.
I don’t think Nolan would be happy the way his death is being politicized and people profiting from it.
I don’t think Nolan would be happy the way his death is being politicized and people profiting from it.
Posted on 7/28/26 at 7:47 am to I-59 Tiger
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has it been verified that young Nolan knew how to swim?
Personally, I dont see the relevance to who saw him last, because he wasnt alone when his boat left.
He was with a girl, who was also with friends, and therefore she should be the only direction of the investigation.
Whatever happened to the young man, she was there and saw him last. There's NO WAY he stayed behind to hang with her, and they didn't discuss.
And when it was time for her to leave, there's no way they didn't discuss.
I say this, because when the boat got into trouble, they were able to verbally communicate with him , and apparently her because they were together, about staying behind, etc.....and saw the boat leave.
So seeing that, no way there isnt a conversation at her leaving about something like "you got a ride, I know your friends left"
Posted on 7/28/26 at 8:23 am to carguymatt
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Part of the problem with this whole case is , not enough people have experienced boating plus party community out on water
I couldn't agree more. Absolutely nothing about these events strikes me as odd. Lots of his friends were out there that day, so I can't understand the intense focus on the ones he initially rode with.
It's well documented that they left, so why are we dismissing all of the other friends who were still around him that day to include other random people?
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