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re: Minneapolis Sets Stage to Abolish Police Department

Posted on 6/29/20 at 11:08 am to
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
13292 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 11:08 am to
They do know a lot of black-owned houses get burglarized right? I guess they have white privilege too
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47827 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 11:09 am to
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Why not just have a Committee of Public Safety? Maybe get a guy like Max Robespierre to head it up.


Those in power walking down this road would be best served to open a history book and see what happened to Mr. Robespierre IMHO
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
45331 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 11:11 am to
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Haven’t some of these council members used public funds to hire personal, private security for themselves since this started?


Yes. They should be required to reimburse the public coffers. Public funds are not there for your personal use and is not your discretionary personal piggy bank.

I will have to wait and see if they vote these same clowns back in to know if I feel sorry for Joe Average in MN.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
Bravo Romeo Lima Alpha
Member since Feb 2005
61361 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 11:11 am to
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Lisa Bender, the City Council president, famously said in an interview that when you call for police to report a burglary at your home it “comes from a place of privilege.”



I had always thought it came from a place of tax payers money to provide for the safety of the public.


There has to be a state constitutional obligation that dismantling the police department violates.



This post was edited on 6/29/20 at 11:13 am
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
37531 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 11:13 am to
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The MPD should help the public visualize what this would look like with a 14 day strike

And really, why not do so? 2-3 weeks before the vote that’s exactly what police should do.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
24445 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 11:13 am to
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Lisa Bender, the City Council president, famously said in an interview that when you call for police to report a burglary at your home it “comes from a place of privilege.”




I remember the argument these types use to use against using guns to defend your home was “You can just call the cops”. Now now what are they going to say?
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
69698 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 11:14 am to
It’s one thing to disband and reform which many need to do but to disband and not have law enforcement is dumb. At this point I’m sure every major police force in the urban areas needs restructuring.

I’d say 25% of an officer’s daily job should be some form of training whether is learning proper restraint, hostage situations, even internal affairs, etc. an officer of the law should never become complacent with their job. Mental health screenings will be more frequently needed. urban areas need to recruit more minorities to represent their areas of the city. It’ll require more funding but if the resources are allocated properly it can be done.

This is more then just a job but a calling and an honor to protect and serve. Somewhere along the way this has been forgotten
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71508 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 11:14 am to
You should also consider linking the article about various City Council members requesting security details due to "death threats" from "white nationalists".
Posted by Shorter Yards
Here and There
Member since Jun 2020
369 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 11:14 am to
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I remember the argument these types use to use against using guns to defend your home was “You can just call the cops”. Now now what are they going to say?


I'm pretty sure another excuse will be utilized.
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 11:15 am to
One day they’ll realize that blacks call police for burglary also
Posted by Double Oh
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
23332 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 11:17 am to
Man what the fuk is going on in Minneapolis???
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
24445 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 11:17 am to
They’ll probably just end up doing what Camden, NJ did. Create a whole “new” department that they promise will be different then the last. In reality it’ll just be the same cops with slightly different uniforms, names, and motto.
Posted by sweetwaterbilly
Member since Mar 2017
19579 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 11:17 am to
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when you call for police to report a burglary at your home it “comes from a place of privilege.”


This is the most ridiculous shite I've ever seen. I've lost all faith in humanity.

So what happens when Ilhan Omar's house is robbed? Just going to be okay with the "unplanned donation"? What if they beat her (it's a she, right?)?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295687 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 11:18 am to
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remember the argument these types use to use against using guns to defend your home was “You can just call the cops”. Now now what are they going to say?


Progressives have no ideology except for "revolution." They use black folks, gay folks as pawns.

This saying was popular in the 60s among SDS radicals.

"The issue is never the issue, the issue is the revolution."
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 11:18 am to
Defunding the police is the most anti black thing someone can do. EMS agencies can’t go in to so many different calls without police. I’ve witnessed 100s of calls for blacks alone where police were doing first aid or cpr prior to our arrival, and many of those saved. The black community constantly calls for police aid.
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
19811 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 11:18 am to
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I’d say 25% of an officer’s daily job should be some form of training


Where do you people come up with this stuff? What job entails 25% of the time being spent not doing the job? You would need to triple the number of police officers to make up for that much time doing something other than police functions.
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
69698 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 11:18 am to
Of course they do and minorities should be pro 2nd amendment for this reason

Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44199 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 11:20 am to
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This is more then just a job but a calling and an honor to protect and serve. Somewhere along the way this has been forgotten



Right around the time the Police Unions came to power.

Which is the primary reason for lack of accountability for the shitty cops out there.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8577 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 11:20 am to
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18.3% of homes are on the market in Minneapolis right now. That’s how bad it is.


Just for reference, what's the baseline?
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 11:20 am to
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I’d say 25% of an officer’s daily job should be some form of training whether is learning proper restraint, hostage situations, even internal affairs, etc. an officer of the law should never become complacent with their job. Mental health screenings will be more frequently needed. urban areas need to recruit more minorities to represent their areas of the city. It’ll require more funding but if the resources are allocated properly it can be done


Most big police departments do all that. 25% is a bit ridiculous and a number you pulled out of your arse though.
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