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re: Milton, most sensationalized Hurricane ever?
Posted on 10/10/24 at 1:42 pm to SippyCup
Posted on 10/10/24 at 1:42 pm to SippyCup
I'm speaking strictly on the fake news media's behavior in the face of real data, and in no way trying to downplay the storm or the negative effect it has had on good people.
Not running my mouth, just highlighting some major reconciliation issues. Maybe should have been a poli board post.
Not running my mouth, just highlighting some major reconciliation issues. Maybe should have been a poli board post.
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Posted on 10/10/24 at 1:44 pm to troyt37
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weathermen on twitter, because every weather event worth mentioning, he made sound apocalyptic.
I don’t need a shot of a weatherman in a rain coat, ever again. We already have cameras on every block, in every store, etc.
Posted on 10/10/24 at 1:45 pm to white beans
go to google maps and just zoom in on the homes and buildings from TB down the west coast of florida. It is unbelievable how many homes are within a mile of the beach. The hurricane was 180 mph less than 48 hrs before landfall. It pretty much did exactly what they forecasted it to do....but what if it did somehow stay a cat 5 and hit around TB...best to err on the side of caution IMO
Posted on 10/10/24 at 1:47 pm to white beans
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I'm speaking strictly on the fake news media's behavior in the face of real data, and in no way trying to downplay the storm or the negative effect it has had on good people.
Not running my mouth, just highlighting some major reconciliation issues. Maybe should have been a poli board post.
So how would you have liked them (and "fake news media" seems pretty broad, so I'm not sure who exactly you're discussing) to report it differently? From what I saw, which was mostly meterologist/NWS type news, they reported it fired up pretty quick to a Cat 5 then weakened before landfall. But because of existing issues from Helene storm surge, even a decreased hurrican would cause issues.
I'm just not sure who you're asking to not "sensationalize". Local and state governments started rolling out mandatory evacuation orders over good data that predicted the possibility it could hit Tampa head on (which would be horrific) or that it wouldn't weaken as they had hoped (we've all seen that happen recently).
Posted on 10/10/24 at 1:48 pm to white beans
You have a short memory. The NWS basically acts like the worst case scenario is going to happen before every hurricane.
This results in about 85% of hurricanes being over-sensationalized.
But it's still hard to blame the NWS. It's better that people overprepare than that they underprepare.
This results in about 85% of hurricanes being over-sensationalized.
But it's still hard to blame the NWS. It's better that people overprepare than that they underprepare.
Posted on 10/10/24 at 1:49 pm to white beans
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speaking strictly on the fake news media's behavior in the face of real data
I think your failure was in not being extremely specific (my Cat 6 example for instance.) Topics that are likely to cause anecdotes about granny drowning, etc., have to be very carefully phrased, otherwise the topic narrative that gets established in the first three replies becomes a wildfire that takes over your thread.
Posted on 10/10/24 at 1:49 pm to Topwater Trout
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but what if it did somehow stay a cat 5 and hit around TB.
this.
the NHC is good, but not perfect, and they do "miss" on intensity sometimes.
there have been some storms that continued strengthening right up until landfall despite all the info saying they would weaken.
you really don't want to be telling people that this thing was going to bomb out and be a 2 then have Ida roar in.
also, they readily admit their projected landfall have a margin of error of 20-30nm
that goes from Siesta Key (where it hit) to St. Pete and sending surge into the Bay.
Posted on 10/10/24 at 1:53 pm to white beans
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most sensationalized Hurricane ever?
Superstorm Sandy
/thread
Posted on 10/10/24 at 1:56 pm to Nutriaitch
i am pretty amazed with how accurate predicting intensity and landfall has become.
Posted on 10/10/24 at 2:08 pm to LemmyLives
quote:there is no correlation between tsunamis and sea level rise.
But how many movies, documentaries etc on tsunamis does the world need to make to tell people that rising water is a killer?
Besides, last time I saw so called data they said sea levels were rising in Asia only.
Posted on 10/10/24 at 2:09 pm to LemmyLives
the ad homs have been a trip
Posted on 10/10/24 at 2:25 pm to I20goon
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tsunamis and sea level rise.
WTF?
Rising water means storm surge. Tsunamis are an extreme, but easily available visual for people that don’t get what rushing water can do.
Did you somehow make this about climate change, because I didn’t.
Posted on 10/10/24 at 2:30 pm to white beans
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Milton, most sensationalized Hurricane ever?
It's always good to start your thread about hyperbolic media coverage with an out-of-control-hyperbolic question.
Posted on 10/10/24 at 2:30 pm to white beans
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white beans
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Does Katrina count to you?
Where are you located?
Posted on 10/10/24 at 2:33 pm to LemmyLives
quote:my mistake. I thought when you said water levels you were indeed referring to the climate change boogabear of rising sea levels.
WTF?
Rising water means storm surge. Tsunamis are an extreme, but easily available visual for people that don’t get what rushing water can do.
Did you somehow make this about climate change, because I didn’t.
Yes, a tsunami is indeed a drastic and extreme in water levels.
Posted on 10/10/24 at 3:08 pm to nicholastiger
quote:OP (White Beans) is another one of those TD.com nut job attention whores that will post anything to get people to notice that he's alive and sucking in Nitrogen & Oxygen.
do you not realize that if that thing had held together how devastating it would have been the people in the path of that storm got very very very lucky
"The Hurricane really wasn't that bad and I'm upset that it weakened before landfall. Let me run to TD.com and complain so everybody will pay attention to Me."
Posted on 10/10/24 at 3:33 pm to white beans
Let me get this straight - Milton was a Cat 5 with 160 mph winds at the 5am 10/9 update, 15 hours before landfall. It was also on a track with high probability to hit Tampa.
How was it overhyped? Yes, it was predicted and did weaken. But, the cost of being wrong would have been thousands of lives.
How was it overhyped? Yes, it was predicted and did weaken. But, the cost of being wrong would have been thousands of lives.
Posted on 10/10/24 at 3:46 pm to white beans
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This is what I am talking about, the fake news media toying with people is a massive issue.
It’s what causes people to ignore reporting, and ride out truly catastrophic storms when they need to GTFO.
At 5pm yesterday they were calling it the "Storm of the Century" on all the national news.
Posted on 10/10/24 at 3:49 pm to SouthMSReb
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Given the fact that we cant control or predict with certainty (sorry poli board) where hurricanes are going, it's better than the alternative of "yeah this thing is going to weaken 4 hours before landfall, youre good to go about normal business" and then 1000 people die.
or you end up with a katrina. where people dont believe the boy who cried wolf and stay.
Not taking it seriously and fear mongering are both bad. Two wrongs don't make a right.
Posted on 10/10/24 at 3:55 pm to Bucktail1
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You’re an idiot. It was a strong cat 3 at landfall. You’ve never been thorough a cat 3 storm that’s almost certain. Very few have
The NHC said it was a major hurricane at landfall, but I haven’t seen any real measurements that document that.
I say that not to minimize the damage that did occur, but to point out that if a strong 3 were to make landfall in the same aress as things would have been much worse.
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