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re: Milton, most sensationalized Hurricane ever?
Posted on 10/10/24 at 1:18 pm to white beans
Posted on 10/10/24 at 1:18 pm to white beans
You seem smart so you should invent something to nail down precisely what, where and how a hurricane system will affect an area. 
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Posted on 10/10/24 at 1:19 pm to TigerSprings
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Any word on Lieutenant Dan?
He's fine. He has a new outlook on humanity. They are much nicer than he thought before the storm. Many people helped him position his sail boat properly to ride out the storm and helped him after. He seemed grateful.
This post was edited on 10/10/24 at 2:37 pm
Posted on 10/10/24 at 1:19 pm to BluegrassBelle
But remember a few days ago where they were stumping to get Cat 6 to be a thing? That was purely a media play that would have been a tool in their climate change narrative.
That’s the kind of thing that was overblown to me at least.
That’s the kind of thing that was overblown to me at least.
Posted on 10/10/24 at 1:20 pm to white beans
Pumping the climate change agenda calling it a major at landfall. With Milton land falling as a “major,” that makes 4 majors to hit Florida in the last 5 years. In reality, Ian was the only hurricane to fit that criteria
Posted on 10/10/24 at 1:20 pm to white beans
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Does Katrina count to you?
And there it is. The typical person that thinks that only the hurricanes that hit them were devastating.
The first hurricane I went through was Camille. The last was Ian. I don't wish that shite on anyone and am glad if a storm weakens and the impact is less than it could have been.
Posted on 10/10/24 at 1:21 pm to white beans
.....so far .....
Posted on 10/10/24 at 1:23 pm to white beans
quote:To make that determination you have to have the full accounting of the damage. Money, time, and people. Do not have that yet.
Milton, most sensationalized Hurricane ever?
Helene was under-reported pre-storm. The idea that they were not on the coast and in the hills, when everybody knew it was going to make that left hook, was just plain stupid. That much rain, for that long, in the mountains was a recipe for disaster. People actually evacuated TO the area; not many, but some thinking those hollers would protect them from the dangers everybody was talking about - storm surge and wind. They were right... almost.
So in a sense you are right- storm surge and wind is what they talk about. They seem to forget about the rain and tornados. First there was Laurel MS with Katrina (or was it Rita?). Now NC. So in a sense the "sensationalization" needs to mirror the real threat... then it isn't over-sensationalized.
Posted on 10/10/24 at 1:24 pm to white beans
Not even close.
That title goes to "Superstorm" Sandy. It wasn't even technically a hurricane when it made landfall in the NE. But because it hit NJ/NY it was tabbed as a fricking "Superstorm".
Yes, the damage was more extensive (from a cost perspective) than most because the storm made landfall in a densely populated area. But it wasn't a GD "Superstorm" relative to MANY of the brutal storms that have hit the southeast for centuries. The good people of Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Florida, Georgia, and the Carolinas would kindly like you to frick off about your "Superstorm"
That title goes to "Superstorm" Sandy. It wasn't even technically a hurricane when it made landfall in the NE. But because it hit NJ/NY it was tabbed as a fricking "Superstorm".
Yes, the damage was more extensive (from a cost perspective) than most because the storm made landfall in a densely populated area. But it wasn't a GD "Superstorm" relative to MANY of the brutal storms that have hit the southeast for centuries. The good people of Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Florida, Georgia, and the Carolinas would kindly like you to frick off about your "Superstorm"
Posted on 10/10/24 at 1:25 pm to white beans
The democrats turned down the weather machine since hurricanes are making them look bad
Posted on 10/10/24 at 1:25 pm to LemmyLives
This is what I am talking about, the fake news media toying with people is a massive issue.
It’s what causes people to ignore reporting, and ride out truly catastrophic storms when they need to GTFO.
It’s what causes people to ignore reporting, and ride out truly catastrophic storms when they need to GTFO.
Posted on 10/10/24 at 1:26 pm to Pettifogger
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I just think it's hard to see them ever having enough faith the models to tell folks that high alert probably isn't needed because the 175MPH megastore is going to fall apart 30 hours from now right before it gets to a densely populated area.
I do think some progress could be made on the wind accuracy - Boat and Duke were both calling this a Cat 2 ahead of landfall and thought the wind ratings from NHC were clearly exaggerated (which was more or less confirmed by the landfall measurements/damage). That's an area where perhaps prognostication can be tightened up - I can't really remember a storm that came in with recorded winds particularly close to the max sustained estimate - and most often they're well below.
I think the larger issue is a scale based on sustained winds and assumed damage alone.
I prefer something like the Fujita scale for tornadoes which determines severity not just on wind gusts but also on scale of damage. I think everyone is really aware of wind damage in hurricanes but it's the storm surge that will absolute devastate a community.
The other thing that's contrary to OP's nonchalance is that several area affected by Milton are still dealing with storm surge from Helene. So they were already in a compromised position. It wouldn't take much more than a Cat 2 or 3 to create massive issues.
This post was edited on 10/10/24 at 1:27 pm
Posted on 10/10/24 at 1:26 pm to white beans
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I never once understood the nature of the reporting on this storm given the data that existed.
Let's just ignore all the tornadoes it spawned too. Yeah. the whole thing was a big nothingburger. Idiot.
Posted on 10/10/24 at 1:27 pm to TigerSprings
He's a grifter and a thief
Posted on 10/10/24 at 1:30 pm to Alt26
quote:agreed, wholeheartedly.
That title goes to "Superstorm" Sandy. It wasn't even technically a hurricane when it made landfall in the NE. But because it hit NJ/NY it was tabbed as a fricking "Superstorm".
By the way, NYC is still receiving FEMA money for that as recent as March this year.
Posted on 10/10/24 at 1:30 pm to Pettifogger
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I just think it's hard to see them ever having enough faith the models to tell folks that high alert probably isn't needed because the 175MPH megastore is going to fall apart 30 hours from now right before it gets to a densely populated area.
People have a hard time understanding that you cannot forecast and warn for the best possible scenario, particularly when it involves a huge population center in arguably the most surge-prone city in the country. Intensity forecasting has lagged track forecasting, and that is known by anyone who has paid attention. You can hope all you want, but if those hopes go unrealized after you've forecast the best possible scenarion, then you have no time left. Your hopes did nothing but put people in danger.
Posted on 10/10/24 at 1:32 pm to BluegrassBelle
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storm surge that will absolute devastate a community
But how many movies, documentaries etc on tsunamis does the world need to make to tell people that rising water is a killer?
The relative damage is an exercise in turning qualitative data into something that looks quantitative. Way too many factors at play.
Posted on 10/10/24 at 1:34 pm to white beans
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It’s what causes people to ignore reporting, and ride out truly catastrophic storms when they need to GTFO.
No, what causes this is people being morons. Period.
Posted on 10/10/24 at 1:36 pm to white beans
How about you wait form some of the damage photos to come in before you start running your mouth?
There is some significat damage south of Tampa. Just because it missed Tamp doesnt mean there wasnt any severe damage.
There is some significat damage south of Tampa. Just because it missed Tamp doesnt mean there wasnt any severe damage.
Posted on 10/10/24 at 1:38 pm to white beans
Nothing wrong with being over prepared.
Now the live Desantis press conference I saw roughly an hour ago, that was full of loaded press questions trying to push a sensationalist agenda.
Now the live Desantis press conference I saw roughly an hour ago, that was full of loaded press questions trying to push a sensationalist agenda.
Posted on 10/10/24 at 1:38 pm to white beans
It's obviously done for clicks and traffic, but I also think there is a bit of personality trait thing with weather people as well. Sure, at times they are a primary source of information about legitimate life threatening weather situations. but for whatever reason, a lot of them seem to want to sensationalize and elevate relatively mundane weather events. I told one of our local guys that he was the Nancy Grace of weathermen on twitter, because every weather event worth mentioning, he made sound apocalyptic.
Look at the global warming hoax. We were all supposed to be dead, the ice caps melted, sea levels changing coastlines, and tropical weather in Canada by now, right? Weather geeks just struggle for relevance, and when an event happens, it's time for the glitter and jazz hands.
Look at the global warming hoax. We were all supposed to be dead, the ice caps melted, sea levels changing coastlines, and tropical weather in Canada by now, right? Weather geeks just struggle for relevance, and when an event happens, it's time for the glitter and jazz hands.
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