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re: Millennials being squeezed out of middle class, says OECD

Posted on 4/11/19 at 11:28 am to
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 4/11/19 at 11:28 am to
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me where in Louisiana, bc I'm pretty sure if any state has those areas, we do. 

I mean I like Bernie Sanders, but you're spouting bullshite


Let me clarify.

We have poor areas in LA and AL. Same goes for all the Deep South states. You can blame some of this on bad life decisions. But a larger problem is how much money we allocate to local economies for businesses versus the amount given by our welfare system. There is arguably no reason for our poor to work versus living on welfare (aside from knowing that's wrong).

Many areas are devastated because the lack of industry has ruined them.
This post was edited on 4/11/19 at 11:29 am
Posted by Areddishfish
The Wild West
Member since Oct 2015
6333 posts
Posted on 4/11/19 at 11:30 am to
What overpriced area in the country do you live where you can't?
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
70504 posts
Posted on 4/11/19 at 11:31 am to
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volod
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
15885 posts
Posted on 4/11/19 at 11:56 am to
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Governments must listen to people’s concerns and protect and promote middle class living standards. This will help drive economic inclusive and sustainable growth and create a more cohesive and stable social fabric.”



Government created this problem by subsidizing every loser that wanted to go to college and then making sure they got to sit at the feet of socialist professors while they pursued worthless degrees, so of course now the solution is more government.

And F the middle class. I grew up poor and learned life’s lessons the hard way, but middle class was never my goal.
Posted by LSUAlum2001
Stavro Mueller Beta
Member since Aug 2003
47445 posts
Posted on 4/11/19 at 12:09 pm to
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baby boomers ruined this country.


Lame excuse for the I want everything now generation.
Posted by NCDawg52
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2014
3151 posts
Posted on 4/11/19 at 12:13 pm to
I am a millennial. My income supports my family, has allowed us to purchase a home within a relatively high cost of living area, and save for retirement.

It hasn’t been easy, and perhaps my parents generation had a more simple path. I don’t really know because I didn’t live in the time of their childhood.

There is more information available now than ever before. If people find an area unlivable/unaffordable, then they need to change careers, move, or both.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
51910 posts
Posted on 4/11/19 at 2:44 pm to
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$50k - $70k single

$80k - $120k family


31-60k single

50-90k family
Posted by thesoccerfanjax
Member since Nov 2013
6128 posts
Posted on 4/11/19 at 3:20 pm to
$70k young single guy in the South is ballin and very easily upper middle class. Most people make way less than you think, and the stats prove it.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
283280 posts
Posted on 4/11/19 at 3:25 pm to
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Many areas are devastated because the lack of industry has ruined them.


Creative, innovating, motivated people end up with what they want.

The rest, complain about their lot in life.

Regardless of where you choose to live, there is opportunity. You just gotta find it.
Posted by tketaco
Sunnyside, Houston
Member since Jan 2010
21178 posts
Posted on 4/11/19 at 3:40 pm to
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if I have to ask who they are, it's not gonna make your shite jump up


Yeah it is. That and Dynomo training field, 288 expansion and just flattened more land to build more subdivisions.

Plus we putting a SpaceX launch pad in my driveway.
Posted by crash1211
Houma
Member since May 2008
3428 posts
Posted on 4/11/19 at 4:03 pm to
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Yeah, some guy with a promising career is just gonna move to bawcomville just so he can buy a house for $180k.


That's life choices. If he wants to stay don't bitch about how much the housing cost. Geez
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
41690 posts
Posted on 4/11/19 at 4:09 pm to
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You mean to be able to owe a bank $170k plus interest for the next 30 years?

That's being poor.


well all of us can't just pay cash for a house there Richie Rich.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
35387 posts
Posted on 4/11/19 at 4:20 pm to
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I do think the definition of a family making 80k as middle class is wrong. I don't think if you have a wife/husband and 2 kids 80k is anywhere near enough

Eh, I think 80-90k (a wider band is probably from about 65-115k or so) is about what I classify as middle class for a family of 4. Obviously it depends on where you live, but that (80-90k) is basically a young couple where both are making teacher level salaries (again depending upon where you live).
Posted by ColoradoAg03
Denver, CO
Member since Oct 2012
6436 posts
Posted on 4/11/19 at 4:24 pm to


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To be able to have something like this in a decent town surrounding a nice city.


In the Denver metro area, that's a $700,000+ house.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
90085 posts
Posted on 4/11/19 at 4:32 pm to
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That's life choices. If he wants to stay don't bitch about how much the housing cost. Geez


I think the point is that people in Dallas aren't bitching, they're just renting until they can buy something. For whatever reason, people clown them for that decision, so they point out their career won't go the same if they move.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
56983 posts
Posted on 4/11/19 at 4:33 pm to
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baby boomers ruined this country.

Without us boomers you’d all be speaking Vietnamese
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171912 posts
Posted on 4/11/19 at 4:36 pm to
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That's life choices. If he wants to stay don't bitch about how much the housing cost. Geez


Let me completely give up ambitions for a huge career and live in a shitty cheap town just because housing is more affordable.

Some people want to do more than turn a wrench for 60 years.
This post was edited on 4/11/19 at 4:36 pm
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
90085 posts
Posted on 4/11/19 at 4:47 pm to
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I do think the definition of a family making 80k as middle class is wrong. I don't think if you have a wife/husband and 2 kids 80k is anywhere near enough


The median family income for households with children is $71k as of 2017. More than 50% of families in this country get by on less than $80k.

Is it as comfortable as we'd all like? Nah, of course not, but they do it.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
130649 posts
Posted on 4/11/19 at 4:48 pm to
Living in your parents basement is middle class now?
Posted by thesoccerfanjax
Member since Nov 2013
6128 posts
Posted on 4/11/19 at 4:49 pm to
What compounded the 2008 crash was the fact that many people moved to BFE suburbs in order to live the American dream of owning more house than they could afford and making absurd commutes, often in old beater cars or new ones they also couldn’t afford. This makes your vehicle a literal lifeline. Lose your car and you lose your job and then your house.
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