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re: Mickey Mouse copyright expires after 95 years.
Posted on 12/25/23 at 10:15 am to Schmelly
Posted on 12/25/23 at 10:15 am to Schmelly
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I think Disney sucks in a lot of ways but “dominance over copyright law”? Mickey is Disney. How does anyone deserve to have the rights to him other than the company that created him?
Allowing the ownership of acts of creative expression in perpetuity would create a hellscape of creative stagnation that I’m not sure some of you are really wrapping your heads around. As has been mentioned already on this thread, most of Disney’s early animation catalogue wouldn’t exist if not for creative works becoming public domain. Or should Disney have been required to pay von Goethe’s family several hundred years later for the rights to depict the story of The Sorcerer’s Apprentice?
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Posted on 12/25/23 at 10:17 am to TrueTiger
Probably 30 years too late, but I’m sure RATT would love to bring this back now that Disney can’t sue them.
Posted on 12/25/23 at 10:18 am to Blizzard of Chizz
Posted on 12/25/23 at 10:21 am to Meauxjeaux
Air Pirates
Posted on 12/25/23 at 10:25 am to mdomingue
True and very subtle.
This will trip people up and get them sued.
Posted on 12/25/23 at 10:28 am to TrueTiger
As a person of Irish heritage I find Mickey Mouse to be offensive and derogatory towards Irish people. Disney and Mickey should be canceled
Posted on 12/25/23 at 10:29 am to The Eric
quote:Brings to mind the story (possibly apocryphal) of the sisters whose dad wrote “Happy Birthday” and they never worked a day in their lives.
Blows my mind how copyright can just expire.
Mailbox money.
I’m too lazy to look it up, I’m sure Wiki has something on it.
Posted on 12/25/23 at 10:31 am to TrueTiger
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True and very subtle.
This will trip people up and get them sued.
Fricken Disney rules the world.
Posted on 12/25/23 at 10:33 am to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
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Reminds me of the bucees mexican knockoffs my pal S posted a while back
Posted on 12/25/23 at 10:34 am to Meauxjeaux
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Porn will be first out the gate
I can see the title now, "Steamboat's Willie".
Posted on 12/25/23 at 10:40 am to TrueTiger
Chester J Lampwick rolling over in his grave
Posted on 12/25/23 at 10:51 am to Joshjrn
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Allowing the ownership of acts of creative expression in perpetuity would create a hellscape of creative stagnation that I’m not sure some of you are really wrapping your heads around. As has been mentioned already on this thread, most of Disney’s early animation catalogue wouldn’t exist if not for creative works becoming public domain. Or should Disney have been required to pay von Goethe’s family several hundred years later for the rights to depict the story of The Sorcerer’s Apprentice?
This. We'd be paying the person who created floors, walls, concrete, ect ect until the end of time.
Posted on 12/25/23 at 11:02 am to Schmelly
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I think Disney sucks in a lot of ways but “dominance over copyright law”? Mickey is Disney. How does anyone deserve to have the rights to him other than the company that created him?
The people who created the Steamboat Willy cartoon are dead. Nobody at the company named "Disney" had any involvement in the creation of Steamboat Willy.
Why should Americans have to pay anyone for the use of this historical cartoon? Who alive actually deserves payment for the creation of Steamboat Willy?
If we should have to pay descendants of cartoon creators to watch or adapt cartoons from a century ago, you probably think reparations for slavery is a good idea too.
Posted on 12/25/23 at 11:03 am to tyler925
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Now do all the public domain titles that Disney has made billions off of over the years
There’s a problem with the law, not the people taking advantage of them. Same as taxes
Posted on 12/25/23 at 11:04 am to efrad
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Who alive actually deserves payment for the creation of Steamboat Willy?
The COMPANY that OWNS it
Posted on 12/25/23 at 11:06 am to Schmelly
I’m dumb but why can’t Disney just renew it?
Posted on 12/25/23 at 11:10 am to Schmelly
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There’s a problem with the law, not the people taking advantage of them. Same as taxes
It's not a problem with the law at all.
The public benefited from Disney creating fantastic cartoons based off of public domain titles. Those classic stories belong to humanity, so Disney can make adaptations if they like. There's nothing wrong with that, nor is there anything wrong with Disney profiting from it. And long after the creators of Steamboat Willy are dead, that work, too, will be long to humanity.
The contradiction comes in when the Disney corporation thinks they can profit off of old public domain works they didn't create but should also control other works they didn't create.
Posted on 12/25/23 at 11:13 am to Schmelly
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The COMPANY that OWNS it
Owns what? What do they physically possess? It's not as if it's an object only one person can possess, an immutable quality for all time.
What you are calling "ownership" -- control of an idea -- is a made up modern construction of copyright law, which always allowed for expiration since the concept was made up.
Posted on 12/25/23 at 11:18 am to Schmelly
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I think Disney sucks in a lot of ways but “dominance over copyright law”? Mickey is Disney. How does anyone deserve to have the rights to him other than the company that created him?
I was thinking Trademark here... Copywrite is something written, filmed or idea.. or sumsuch
Posted on 12/25/23 at 11:19 am to TrueTiger
Look up the Weiss Schwarz Steamboat Willie card...
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