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re: Megan Rapinoe "shocked" by judge's decision on equal pay claims

Posted on 5/5/20 at 4:53 pm to
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
61061 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 4:53 pm to
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Jerome the runningback gets 100K for his autograph

Nancy the softball player only gets $10

Nancy gon be mad




I agree. This will definitely become an issue
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 4:55 pm to
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If they brought in the same revenue that men do, then they should get equal pay.

However, they don't come close.



It's not about revenue. It's about opportunity cost for the players.

You have to pay them enough to make it worth their considerable commitment of time, effort, injury risk, etc.

For men, that is much higher, because the pay in professional soccer is much higher for men.

The men have a lot more to lose than the women do playing international soccer, so the national teams have to pay them more. That's the entire explanation.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
40042 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 4:57 pm to
There are plenty of girls I've played with that have good technical skills, but the body type that generally develops is not suited to riding challenges. I don't ever feel like I can play at full speed with them. And the girls I do play with in the regular pickup crew all played at the college level, and one was even capped at the U-21 level for a small European nation.

The inability of girls to withstand really simple challenges on the ball has been a consistent experience of mine playing pickup games. Maybe it was different for you.

Posted by OldmanBeasley
Charlotte
Member since Jun 2014
11229 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 4:58 pm to
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Yes. I played club soccer up until I was 16 and we played a local girls club a couple times a year in exhibition games. They never beat us, but they could give us a decent game.

Posted by Apollyon
Member since Dec 2019
2124 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 4:58 pm to
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You have “equality” / "equal pay". In fact you are overpaid compared to the men, if you factor $$$/game. Brutal honesty: you should never be paid as much as men because you don't bring in the revenue nor play the amount of games they do. It's economics not sexism you ignorant bitch.


Don't shy away from the obvious: they are not as athletic as even pre-pubescent males (proven frickING FACT) and their entire competition does not matter when compared to professional male athletes. Their pay cannot be compared to professional male athletes. End of story.

Don't even get me started on real revenues (hint: people don't give a frick about women's soccer. At all.)

Damn, the truth hurts sometimes.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
44199 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 5:00 pm to
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We've won two World Cups, and we've won basically every game that we've played, darn near


You lost to a boys high school team. Stfu.
Posted by ZIGG
Member since Dec 2016
12044 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 5:01 pm to
Their entire mindset is straight up “give me! give me! give me” just because of SJW reasons. No logic whatsoever. They basically just want to STEAL money from the men’s revenue.

If women’s soccer (or women’s sports in general) brought in more money then they would be paid more and deservingly so. However, that simply isn’t the case. This isn’t difficult.

That would be like if you had two gas stations located on the same street, but one of them generated four times the amount of revenue than the other. You think it’s okay to steal their money because your store didn’t earn as much?
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
19320 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 5:01 pm to
Idiots they sued for equal pay but collectively bargained And agreed to for the pay they received.
Idiots
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 5:02 pm to
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We've won two World Cups, and we've won basically every game that we've played, darn near. So, to have that compared in that way and sort of missing the fact that we've outperformed the men's team, j


Have you outperformed them in the only metric relevant to your pay, TV ratings/ticket sales?
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 5:11 pm to
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The inability of girls to withstand really simple challenges on the ball has been a consistent experience of mine playing pickup games. Maybe it was different for you.



No, that was my experience. Most of those games were at the U14 level because the girls coach didn't want us hurting her players as we had all gotten much bigger and stronger after puberty. And those scrimmages were very unstructured where either coach would blow a whistle in the middle of the action to coach a player on something, so they had really disjointed flows to them.

I never did any pick-p coed games that I recall. I pretty much quit playing soccer when I was 16 after breaking an ankle and losing interest in playing.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
40042 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 5:15 pm to
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Have you outperformed them in the only metric relevant to your pay, TV ratings/ticket sales?



They do earn more per game than the men, and have produced more total revenue, but the biggest difference in pay comes not from the USSF, but from the FIFA prize pool, which is only $30 million for the entire women's WC, and was $400 million for the men's tournament. A team placing last in the group stage is entitled to $8 million in the men's bracket, and a much lower sum in the women's game. The fault here is the fact that the women's game generates almost no interest. The USWNT wants to use the men's prize money to make up the difference, which is idiotic on its face, and would absolutely destroy the federation itself, as the men would never agree to such a thing, and I'm skeptical FIFA would either.
Posted by Apollyon
Member since Dec 2019
2124 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 5:28 pm to
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The Spleen


It is irrelevant that you personally suck at soccer.

What IS relevant is that the USWNT argues that they should be paid on par with men who would destroy them by 25+ goals 100% of the time. Their argument sucks, just like the WNBA.
Posted by majoredinwhitehorse
lower alabama
Member since Nov 2016
816 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 5:39 pm to
Mt Union wins more games and championships than anyone in college football. That doesn’t make Kehres worth more than Saban.
Posted by tigercross
Member since Feb 2008
5075 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 5:54 pm to
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Yes. I played club soccer up until I was 16 and we played a local girls club a couple times a year in exhibition games. They never beat us, but they could give us a decent game.



This isn't something you should post on the internet unless you want people to think your name is OweO.
Posted by rumproast
Member since Dec 2003
12474 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 6:07 pm to
If she wasn't such an entitled annoying arrogant c*nt, I might be more sympathetic to her plight. But that whole "I deserve this" crap made me pretty much hate that skank. Possibly the most annoying person on planet earth.
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 6:17 pm to
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Simple economics-If networks get more for commercials, ticket prices are more- ya get paid more. Nothing to do with male vs female. Supply and demand. No more , no less.


You never hear complaints from women's volleyball team. Wonder why?
Posted by SECdragonmaster
Order of the Dragons
Member since Dec 2013
17460 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 6:44 pm to
Rapino (Like Scottie Pippin) signed a bad deal.

Live with the consequences. Teams and organizations have to pay out bad deals all the time and no one cried for them.
Posted by Apollyon
Member since Dec 2019
2124 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 6:49 pm to
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Rapino (Like Scottie Pippin) signed a bad deal.



A bad deal? The women's team get paid a King's ransom to play a sport that no one watches.

They should quit bitching and go make sandwiches for the men's team.
Posted by Apollyon
Member since Dec 2019
2124 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 6:51 pm to
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Rapinoe


And that bitch hates america... she should go try complaining about pay to folks in Beijing. See how far she gets...
Posted by Drew Brews
SG·LA
Member since Feb 2018
1958 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 6:52 pm to
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I didn't feel like the ruling really captured the heart of what we're after."


Ok... so that’s not exactly how laws and contracts work. Plus I guess they’ve moved from being manipulative to just flat out lying? They ought to be fricking ashamed of themselves for what they’re doing to US Soccer, especially shitting on the men’s teams later in that quote. Could you imagine that shite the other way around? frick her.
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