re: Megan Rapinoe "shocked" by judge's decision on equal pay claims

This isn't some shocking story either.

Our college women's BB team regularly got worked in practice by fraternity teams.

The worst part about this is that it's genuinely unfair to pit them head to head. Girls who are the best at what they do shouldn't be compared to men with physical advantages that don't come from merit, but from nature.

But most of the time, guys aren't pulling this shite out of thin air to put women down. It comes up because the women disparage men's sports.

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Klausner effectively concluded that differences in payment structure were the result of choices made by the women's players and their union -- including guaranteed annual salaries of at least $100,000 for 20 contracted players -- and not discrimination by the federation.

The 32-page ruling went through a detailed history of the collective bargaining process that led to the current CBA between U.S. Soccer and the USWNTPA that was signed in 2017. Klausner noted that representatives for the players rejected a pay-for-play model identical to the men early in those negotiations in 2016. In later negotiations, the players offered a counterproposal with lesser bonuses than the federation's offer in exchange for more contracted players and higher base salaries -- benefits not part of the CBA between U.S. Soccer and the men's union.

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She should be shocked at her union because they turned down the incentive and play based CBA in favor of more guaranteed money.

And for the rest of it, she needs to take up her problem with FIFA and not the US Soccer federation. Not US Soccer's fault that FIFA has a $400 million prize pool for the men's World Cup vs $30 million for the most recent women's World Cup. Hell, the men's champion alone got $38 million...more than the entire field for the women's tournament.

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If by competitive match you mean one where they play their normal lineup and go 100%, I think the USWNT would win more times than not. Do I think they intentionally tanked that game? No. I do think they likely played a lot of inexperienced players, tried some players out at new positions, experimented with some different tactics, and the players went maybe 80% to avoid injuries. That's common on the international stage.

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I think the point is that the USWNT would lose, and probably lose badly, to scores of teenage boys teams across the country (national, club academies, etc.).

I have no idea if they could beat the U-14s, but obviously it's ridiculous for Rapinoe to talk about outperforming the USMNT given that they could play 100 games against the men and wouldn't score. And again, I'm not diminishing the USWNT for sport - shitting on the men's team is something their "stars" do regularly - which is why these topics come up.

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frick that dyke

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Some of you have really strong feelings towards womens soccer

Who gives a frick if they aren't happy about being paid

It’s also worth noting the women’s team is good because for decades other countries (especially in Europe) didn’t focus more than two cents on their women’s soccer programs. With Title IX the USA did. I’d say in another 10 years the USA won’t be winning with as much regularity as women’s programs are ramping up rapidly. Especially in Europe. If they had any smarts they should try to consider that during their next negotiation

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obviously it's ridiculous for Rapinoe to talk about outperforming the USMNT given that they could play 100 games against the men and wouldn't scor

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She's talking about the team comparative success like world cup wins/records, not a direct head to head performance dude

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I’d say in another 10 years the USA won’t be winning with as much regularity as women’s programs are ramping up rapidly. Especially in Europe.

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It'll likely be less than 10 years. The gap has closed tremendously, and that was somewhat evident the last World Cup. with another 4 years of age in Morgan, Lloyd, Rapinoe, and a few others, I wouldn't be surprised to see another country as the favorite in the next World Cup.

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Yeah, I don't agree with that at all

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Because you're a dumbass.

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Their technical prowess and chemistry is on a different level.

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They would get beat the frick down by most of 5A teams in LA.

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Remind me, didn’t the women’s team explicitly demand NOT to be under the men’s contract because the contract they got instead had a higher downside guarantee?

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Yes, and she's "shocked" by this reality.

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She's talking about the team comparative success like world cup wins/records, not a direct head to head performance dude

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Literally everyone is aware of this

She's comparing WC to WC, however, which is absurd given the disparity in depth of competition, investments into national teams, revenue generation, popularity, talent pool, etc.