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re: Mass shooting on Vegas Strip discussion

Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:23 am to
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:23 am to
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Come on, I don't know many outside of professional/sponsored type poker players that make that kind of money solely from gambling.

Most poker players come into that with money, it isn't where they make their money.
Many poker players make their money from poker and didn't just come into poker already with money.

And obviously, yea I don't know people myself who are professional gamblers, but Vegas is most certainly littered with a bunch of them.


ETA: Though I do agree that it wouldn't surprise me at all if he had some undercover/illegal shite going on with that as well.
This post was edited on 10/4/17 at 10:24 am
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
31603 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:24 am to
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Everytime something happens, people want to make it out to be more than it is.. Not saying that something can't happen, that is more to it that what we see at face value, but I am one who believes that in order to carry out some elaborate attack on many people, the less people who knows about it, the better chance there is to be able to pull it off.


When have you ever heard of one of these attacks that has no reason?

Newton - Mental illness
Va Tech - Mental Illness
Colorado THeater - Mental Illness
9/11, Oklahoma City, Charleston Church shooting, Columbine.....there is always some underlying reason or idealogy at play.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122310 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:24 am to
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insinuating that that's how he made his millions.


It was reported that he made millions on real estate deals.
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
31603 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:25 am to
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This is feasible until the "do something crazy" part. Why would they want that kind of attention brought on if he was laundering money for them?


If the group he was laundering for was tied to ISIS in the Philippines, it would be the perfect ending for their relationship, no? I haven't really thought it through, but I am trying to figure something out.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112939 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:26 am to
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I think he knows the rug is about to get pulled out from under him. He is scared crazy.

Agree to disagree.

Sure, maybe he knows shite and is about to be screwed.

I think his interviews are just about exactly what I'd expect from an already weird/quirky dude 24-48 hour after finding this out about his brother.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:26 am to
His brother is probably still in shock, hasn't slept much at all, been having every phone and email account blown up, and has reporters constantly pestering him to answer the same exact questions over and over.

I wouldn't be surprised if he has a mental breakdown soon, and just curled up in a ball and started crying
Posted by MardiGrasCajun
Dirty Coast, MS
Member since Sep 2005
6024 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:26 am to
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Come on, I don't know many outside of professional/sponsored type poker players that make that kind of money solely from gambling.

Most poker players come into that with money, it isn't where they make their money.


Well, Stephen did consider himself a professional gambler.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112939 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:26 am to
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Also said $100K isn't really that much money. The brother really made sure to let everyone know how wealthy they are. Strange.

Because he clearly seems to be a strange guy, without or without the whole brother/mass murderer thing.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
45149 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:27 am to
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If the group he was laundering for was tied to ISIS in the Philippines, it would be the perfect ending for their relationship, no?
Ok, agree that's possible. I didn't think of it that way originally.
Posted by MardiGrasCajun
Dirty Coast, MS
Member since Sep 2005
6024 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:28 am to
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If the group he was laundering for was tied to ISIS in the Philippines, it would be the perfect ending for their relationship, no? I haven't really thought it through, but I am trying to figure something out.


Your tinfoil hat is waaay too tight this morning. You seemed to be more rational last night.
Posted by Keys Open Doors
In hiding with Tupac & XXXTentacion
Member since Dec 2008
32934 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:28 am to
You say it right there. Mental illness is a common reason.

Newton, VT, UT clock tower, Aurora, these are all really high profile incidents and all are due to mental illness.

I think that's a lot more likely in this case than the ISIS scenarios people are coming up with.
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
31603 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:30 am to
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Your tinfoil hat is waaay too tight this morning. You seemed to be more rational last night.


I know, I am not really saying this is what I actually believe though.

I do still think there could be a connection ultimately to some terrorist activities though. Could also just be a paranoid mentally ill person.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122310 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:32 am to
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Newton, VT, UT clock tower, Aurora, these are all really high profile incidents and all are due to mental illness.

I think that's a lot more likely in this case than the ISIS scenarios people are coming up with.


The ISIS thing makes me laugh. I can be completely wrong, but I would be the farm that ISIS had absolutely nothing to do with this. ISIS is as weak as they have ever been so they look for anything to take credit for to show they are still a threat. People should worry about a lot of other shite before they worry about ISIS.
Posted by crazyLSUstudent
391 miles away from Tiger Stadium
Member since Mar 2012
6146 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:32 am to
This is what I am wondering. Where did this guy get money to start just buying shite in cash
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
31603 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:33 am to
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Newton, VT, UT clock tower, Aurora, these are all really high profile incidents and all are due to mental illness.


If that comes out (maybe the Valium or something sent him over the edge), then I will have no problem accepting that.

Most of those other instances had family members and psychologists that knew the participant was messed up though.
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
32235 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:37 am to
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Judging by the pictures of the windows broken, all that broken glass had to have fallen all the way to the ground, right? Or could that tape have somehow been used to hold the broken glass together when he broke the windows and he just somehow removed the tape along with the broken glass into his hotel room?


Why in the hell would he give a frick about broken glass falling to the ground right before he unleashed Hell on 22000 people below?

Posted by LCA131
Home of the Fake Sig lines
Member since Feb 2008
77302 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:37 am to
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Louis CK is the comedian you're referencing


No sir. Chris Elliot...I looked it up. The physical resemblance in some pics is pretty tight.
Posted by When in Rome
Telegraph Road
Member since Jan 2011
36233 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:41 am to
I was just referring to Eric saying, "Steve didn't love it. It was a job. Steve didn't love the casino, the casino was the means to an end. It was like a job for Toyota in Japan, where you live in the Toyota apartments across the street, and you go to the Toyota factory to work."
Posted by Pendulum
Member since Jan 2009
8090 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:42 am to
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Judging by the pictures of the windows broken, all that broken glass had to have fallen all the way to the ground, right? Or could that tape have somehow been used to hold the broken glass together when he broke the windows and he just somehow removed the tape along with the broken glass into his hotel room?


Hotel room glass that runs from floor to ceiling is tempered by law for safety reasons. It would be impossible to stitch it up, as tempered glass shatters in tiny pieces. There wouldn't be significant cracks but rather thousands of individual shards hanging on, he used the hammer to break out sections for a opening, which was necessary because a lot of that type of glass is laminated as well, so it has a inter-layer (some type of plastic like composition) that 2 pieces of glass are sandwiched against which would keep it relatively "intact" even after the panes shatter; similar to a windshield. I suppose he could have used the tape to pull the glass inwards, but the tape would have to have some crazy adhesive to maintain the peel resistance needed to pull apart a shattered tempered laminate pane of glass; I just don't see it.

This post was edited on 10/4/17 at 10:45 am
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
19353 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:43 am to
Can we stop with ISIS in the Philippines nonsense. There could definitely be a terror group connection but ISIS in the Philippines is nonsense at this point. Also the idea that he targeted conservatives because it's a country concert can pretty much be thrown away with reports that he originally tried to get a room at a hotel above a pop type concert headlined by Lorde and Chance the Rapper
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