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re: Mass shooting on Vegas Strip discussion
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:05 am to shel311
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:05 am to shel311
The brother isn't some loser guys. He is wealthy and involved in Stephen's real estate dealings as well
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According to the AP, Eric Paddock described his brother as a multimillionaire and said they had business dealings and owned property together.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:05 am to When in Rome
quote:I wonder if he was similarly weird/quirky like his brother but probably wayyyyy more affable and less seemingly socially awkward like his brother.
I wonder how similar in personality he was to his brother (very strange).
Obviously just a wild guess, but that's where I'd go with it.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:06 am to Tiger in NY
quote:yea, in the interview while he was talking about how much money his brother had, a couple of times he did mention that he also made a lot of money as well.
The brother isn't some loser guys. He is wealthy and involved in Stephen's real estate dealings as well
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:07 am to shel311
quote:I don't necessarily think he is rationalizing. He's definitely more defensive in this video than the one yesterday and I think it's very likely due to whatever he's read online but without knowing what he read you can't really tell what exactly he's defending.
Kinda sounds like the rationalization a traumatized brother would make, to the tee, no?
The one agenda I can see him with is pointing a finger at the hotels
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:09 am to shel311
He also said that when he was ready to retire (2014; see FB post below), Stephen made his retirement very comfortable (and his mother's retirement very comfortable). When he refers to Stephen "taking care of the people he cared about" it seems like he means that Stephen gave them money.


Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:12 am to VerlanderBEAST
quote:Yea, not sure of the angle or relevance, but there was definite a hint of resentment towards the hotels for some reason.
The one agenda I can see him with is pointing a finger at the hotels
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:13 am to shel311
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yea, in the interview while he was talking about how much money his brother had, a couple of times he did mention that he also made a lot of money as well.
It would be truly out of a movie if Stephen was laundering money through the casinos for bad people and got caught skimming money to himself and his brother.
Then they threaten to kill him and his brother's family if this guy doesn't pay them back and do something crazy. So they have him send his wife over, wire them $100k and shoot up America...debt paid
I'll remove the tinfoil hat now.
This post was edited on 10/4/17 at 10:15 am
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:13 am to When in Rome
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I haven't heard anything about that...but around the 20 minute mark of the brother's interview, he said that Stephen treated the casino / gambling as a job; I guess insinuating that that's how he made his millions.
Or he used gambling as a way to launder money?
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:14 am to When in Rome
quote:I just watched the interview, unless I just don't remember perfectly, I'm almost certain he specifically stated his brother gave him money to make it possible for him to retire early, as you said.
When he refers to Stephen "taking care of the people he cared about" it seems like he means that Stephen gave them money.
Just something about when he speaks, it's like i have to put down everything and listen, and I just can't stop. He could go on for 2 hours, and I'd probably watch it all in 1 sitting.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:15 am to stout
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stout
ha, we both had the same thought
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A source familiar with the matter told ABC News that Stephen Paddock was a "responsible gambler. He paid his bills, and he came back," adding that there was "no indication of any [financial] stress, any debt, any problems at all." "He was a very consistent player," the source said. "The notion of his winning or losing $40,000 seems very much within his norm."
Come on, I don't know many outside of professional/sponsored type poker players that make that kind of money solely from gambling.
Most poker players come into that with money, it isn't where they make their money.
This post was edited on 10/4/17 at 10:18 am
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:16 am to Tiger in NY
Where did the seed money come from. Doubt Steven made enough working for the IRS or USPS. If he was a real estate mogul, the records will be uncovered soon.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:16 am to stout
Oh, it definitely wouldn't surprise me if he was up to some illicit activity. There's clearly so much more to the story we don't know.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:18 am to When in Rome
I'm sure it has already been discussed somewhere in this mammoth thread, so I apologize.
But- what is everyone's thoughts on Stephen recently (in June, I believe) being prescribed diazepam (Valium)? This medication is said to have side effects that include aggression, hostility, and suicidal thoughts/actions.
From narconon.org:
Probably not fully to blame- but still something that should be looked into.
But- what is everyone's thoughts on Stephen recently (in June, I believe) being prescribed diazepam (Valium)? This medication is said to have side effects that include aggression, hostility, and suicidal thoughts/actions.
From narconon.org:
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With Valium, these effects can include fits of rage or violence, aggression, excitement, irritability and hostility. A person may lose control of his impulses which can lead to anti-social behavior, especially among the very young and elderly. Some people may consider suicide. Others may become emotionally blunted.
Probably not fully to blame- but still something that should be looked into.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:18 am to shel311
quote:He gave Eric money to retire, he gave their mom money to retire, and he insinuated that sending $100,000 to the Philippines to Marilou (although I don't think it has been confirmed that this went to Marilou) was totally in line with Stephen's typical behavior, as he "took care" of the people he cared about.
I just watched the interview, unless I just don't remember perfectly, I'm almost certain he specifically stated his brother gave him money to make it possible for him to retire early, as you said.
quote:Totally agree.
Just something about when he speaks, it's like i have to put down everything and listen, and I just can't stop. He could go on for 2 hours, and I'd probably watch it all in 1 sitting.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:18 am to When in Rome
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insinuating that that's how he made his millions
Were has it be said he had millions, multi millionare could mean 2 million, based on his houses a the rental property he owns and his previous job, it is likely he had a net worth in the 2-4 million range.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:19 am to Isabelle81
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Where did the seed money come from
Illegal money from bad people (cartels, gun runners, terroristic groups, etc). He would just be the launderer. He certainly had the appropriate background for it.
If you've seen the show "Ozark", it would be like the Jason Batemen character.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:21 am to Tiger in NY
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All of this makes perfect sense.
But I would then ask why she is now in the Philippines and why did he have the need to wire her $100K? $10K? I get it, but over a $100k? It is a little suspicious, IMO.
I can't answer that. Maybe since they were not married, he was just trying to set her up financially. He could have wrote a will, but IDK. He might have been involved in some white collar crime. Money laundering, some type of fraud.. Who knows. But I don't think there is some type of big conspiracy. Everytime something happens, people want to make it out to be more than it is.. Not saying that something can't happen, that is more to it that what we see at face value, but I am one who believes that in order to carry out some elaborate attack on many people, the less people who knows about it, the better chance there is to be able to pull it off.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:21 am to shel311
I think he knows the rug is about to get pulled out from under him. He is scared crazy.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:22 am to Tiger in NY
quote:This is feasible until the "do something crazy" part. Why would they want that kind of attention brought on if he was laundering money for them?
It would be truly out of a movie if Stephen was laundering money through the casinos for bad people and got caught skimming money to himself and his brother.
Then they threaten to kill him and his brother's family if this guy doesn't pay them back and do something crazy
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:23 am to When in Rome
Also said $100K isn't really that much money. The brother really made sure to let everyone know how wealthy they are. Strange.
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