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re: Mass shooting on Vegas Strip discussion

Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:48 am to
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:48 am to
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Can someone explain exactly what was so bizarre about what he said? That's a genuine question. I know someone mentioned he talked about sushi, which is definitely weird gto gen the circumstances, but did he go on about anything else?

I think even without this issue, he's probably just a weird/quirky dude, so that's the starting point.

He basically told a story of him and his brother eating "THOUSANDS" of dollars worth of sushi 1 night. And he just keeps talking over and over about his brother's love of casinos and how much money him and his brother has and they're wealthy, and the casinos comp his brother everything, and on and on.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:49 am to
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9/11.

Thanks, but you know what i meant.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:49 am to
The video of the brother talking from yesterday is spooky. Some definite inconsistencies with how he spoke and his descriptions yesterday. It also looks like he wants to shed some light on the hotels and thinks that they know more than they're letting on.
Posted by When in Rome
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:49 am to
You just have to watch it. I do believe for the most part that it's the ramblings of someone who is shellshocked over the whole thing. But the picture he paints of his brother, his relationship with his brother, their family life, etc. and the way he rambles on about the money and the Marilou aspect is just bizarre.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112939 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:49 am to
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weirdm and socially awkward guy.
This.

I think if this dude were interviewed for anything or if you just happened to talk to him without all of this that is swirling around him, you'd probably still find him to be bizarre or weird.
Posted by dshort_bruh
Verbena
Member since Sep 2016
507 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:50 am to
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His leg is under the gun in the picture, the gun is mounted to a bipod that is extended and upright, he would have had to have been sitting on the floor, legs stretched out under the gun when he ended it


Or he could had been holding the gun with his left hand, nozzle down, in case anyone came in while he was writing his note. He got done writing and ended it with the pistol
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:51 am to
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I just don't see this. I just think he is your average, run of the mill, weirdm and socially awkward guy. But nothing he is saying or doing is jumping out to me like "oh I know something."


I agree. Add to socially awkward that he is incredibly stressed out, likely not sleeping, probably pounding coffee, and has the media harassing him.

Certainly not a cool cat, but nothing at all seems to be suspicious to me.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:52 am to
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He basically told a story of him and his brother eating "THOUSANDS" of dollars worth of sushi 1 night. And he just keeps talking over and over about his brother's love of casinos and how much money him and his brother has and they're wealthy, and the casinos comp his brother everything, and on and on.


His brother lives in Orlando. Admits to not speaking with him much, and when they do it's about money and the perception that the shooter has done well financially. All he's trying to say is this guy didn't have money problems. And to someone, like the brother in Orlando, that doesn't have as much...he's going to remember these things as important.
This post was edited on 10/4/17 at 9:53 am
Posted by MardiGrasCajun
Dirty Coast, MS
Member since Sep 2005
6024 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:52 am to
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My wife and I talked of this last night. He looks like the comedic actor...Chris something. but yeah, he just rambles and just weird. I questioned why he was not under wraps and being grilled extensively. Maybe he has but you would think the LEO would have told him to shut up.


Louis CK is the comedian you're referencing. Rest assured this man was already grilled extensively. Feds were at his door immediately. Why would LEO want him to shut up? "If" he knew something (which I don't believe he does), then let me talk away...maybe he'll slip up.
Posted by When in Rome
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:52 am to
I don't think the way he talks is suspicious. I just think the way he talks and the things he says are bizarre.

In other words, he doesn't strike me as suspicious. Just so strange. Makes me wonder how strange Stephen was on a regular basis.
This post was edited on 10/4/17 at 9:54 am
Posted by MikeBRLA
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2005
17214 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:53 am to
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Why would you doubt that?


Because it's been reported that he was gambling with 100K+ a day and people generally don't walk around with that much cash.

Also, when you cash out with that much in chips the casino will cut you a check.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
19355 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:54 am to
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I think even without this issue, he's probably just a weird/quirky dude, so that's the starting point.

He basically told a story of him and his brother eating "THOUSANDS" of dollars worth of sushi 1 night. And he just keeps talking over and over about his brother's love of casinos and how much money him and his brother has and they're wealthy, and the casinos comp his brother everything, and on and on.


Definitely agree his brother is weird dude even before all this. But all the stories about the money and casinos seem him trying to illustrate that this came out of no where and that he was a self reliant old school guy who was the bread winner of the people in his life
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112939 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:55 am to
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But all the stories about the money and casinos seem him trying to illustrate that this came out of no where and that he was a self reliant old school guy who was the bread winner of the people in his life
Kinda sounds like the rationalization a traumatized brother would make, to the tee, no?
Posted by TakingStock
Member since Jun 2009
7494 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:57 am to
I would just like to know how he apparently accumulated so much money between the end of the 1980s when his employment with Lockheed ended and today. The brother said the shooter graduated from college and it was all public record. Has anyone heard anything about that?
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
31603 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:57 am to
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Also, when you cash out with that much in chips the casino will cut you a check.


I'd imagine for a high roller, they just direct deposit it even. He probably just signs the tax receipt and says "put it in my account"
Posted by Gnar Cat21
Piña Coladaburg
Member since Sep 2009
17144 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:57 am to
cool. thanks
It's definitely weird to bring up that stuff, but if I had to guess, he probably hasn't slept a whole lot the last few days, and if he really didn't know his brother was this way (which he probably didn't, otherwise I would think he would be speaking to police rather than the news) then he probably just has no idea how to process what's happening.

I'm sure he has some very strange feeling of guilt, even though he did absolutely nothing wrong, mixed with feelings of anger and sadness
This post was edited on 10/4/17 at 9:59 am
Posted by When in Rome
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Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:59 am to
I haven't heard anything about that...but around the 20 minute mark of the brother's interview, he said that Stephen treated the casino / gambling as a job; I guess insinuating that that's how he made his millions.
Posted by When in Rome
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:02 am to
Totally agree. What I take from it is, if his brother is this far out (I think he's just an oddball guy in general) then how odd was Stephen? They say he was a normal guy who snapped, but clearly based on his activities, how he made his living, his relationships, etc. he obviously wasn't a regular guy. I wonder how similar in personality he was to his brother (very strange).
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:02 am to
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I would just like to know how he apparently accumulated so much money between the end of the 1980s when his employment with Lockheed ended and today. The brother said the shooter graduated from college and it was all public record. Has anyone heard anything about that?


Lockheed severance, used to buy some properties on the cheap after savings and loan debacle.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112939 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:02 am to
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I would just like to know how he apparently accumulated so much money between the end of the 1980s when his employment with Lockheed ended and today. The brother said the shooter graduated from college and it was all public record. Has anyone heard anything about that?

Agreed...his brother seems to make it clear that gambling was a job for him, and he made tons of money.
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