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re: Mass casualty shooting in Minneapolis at a church school 20 victims

Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:56 am to
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:56 am to
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One of my kids thinks he is a lawnmower and walks around in a defined grid pattern making engine noises


1) Put him in the yard
2) Put him behind a mower
3) Profit
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
74881 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:58 am to
it most certainly is and its gross.

do better.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79452 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 10:00 am to
you can’t support your argument

Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
74881 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 10:13 am to
false equivalence: one is social/political posturing, the other is actual policy debate about access to weapons. Different categories, different stakes, but you are flattening them together so you can dismiss both at once because you aren’t comfortable with the truth.

This is a blatant attempt to level the playing field by declaring everyone wrong. Which conveniently protects your stance(s) while making it look like you have the moral high ground..we all see through it.
This post was edited on 8/28/25 at 10:20 am
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 8/28/25 at 10:15 am to
He even bogs down when he hits a big ant pile.

Guess I should change his birth certificate gender to zero turn?
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138932 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 10:24 am to
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This is why gender is a social construct and it is why people do not have sex reveal parties when expecting but have gender reveal parties usually by using something blue or pink to reveal the gender THEY have assigned to their soon to be born child.

Gender is a social expression of sex. The two are linked and are not independent of each other nor are they a social “construction”. They exist in every society and are inextricably linked. They’re not some malleable abstract like you think they are.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79452 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 10:25 am to
I am not saying we shouldn’t have these conversations.

I am saying both sides rushing to get point their finger first is and shout louder is always in terrible poor taste

I was critical of the Fry yesterday for posturing too soon.

I am critical of people having the trans shooter infographics locked and loaded on twitter 2 seconds after the identity was revealed.

i’ve repeatedly been accused of not caring about these children, and my whole point is care about these children first and talk politics later.

I think both sides are very hypocritical when it comes to pointing out how opportunistic the other side is to explain tragedy
This post was edited on 8/28/25 at 10:30 am
Posted by wareaglepete
Union of Soviet Auburn Republics
Member since Dec 2012
18560 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 10:29 am to
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by using something blue or pink to reveal the gender THEY have assigned to their soon to be born child.


It’s not assigned, it’s observed and documented.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
74881 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 10:31 am to
Fine.

Your stance summarized is basically: “I’m above it all, both sides are hypocrites, and if you talk policy too soon you don’t care about kids.”

Again, this is just tone-policing to avoid uncomfortable truths.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138932 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 10:31 am to
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I think both sides are very hypocritical when it comes to pointing out how opportunistic the other side is to explain tragedy

I think this is the core of most arguments. If this was a mosque or a synagogue, we would be seeing an all out international media blitz, but because it’s a bunch of Christian kids, the media and activists groups don’t care beyond the gun issue. The truth is these kids were targeted because of their faith but no one in power wants to address that because Christians, at least the white ones, are seen as unimportant members of society who deserve nothing but disdain.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87383 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 10:32 am to
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Again, science does indeed know how to determine sex. It does not and never has been able to determine gender. This is why gender is a social construct and it is why people do not have sex reveal parties when expecting but have gender reveal parties usually by using something blue or pink to reveal the gender THEY have assigned to their soon to be born child. There is NOTHING inherently blue or pink about a male or female child LOL...yet socially we all agree blue indicates a boy and pink indicates a girl and for the most part the baby agrees....some, at some point, do not agree with the summation others have made about them with no input from them. Imagine if you were living you life day to day as a man, dressing like a man, looking like a man, acting like a man....but everyone you met identified you as a woman. That is, from my understanding, what trans people deal with.....it would cause some issues for most people. Most people would probably deal with it by conforming to the opinions of others but they would not do so without some emotional scarring.



Nobody has a "gender reveal party" because they're distinguishing sex from gender. People have "gender reveal parties" because nobody wants to put "sex reveal party" on an invitation.
Posted by wareaglepete
Union of Soviet Auburn Republics
Member since Dec 2012
18560 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 10:33 am to
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i’ve repeatedly been accused of not caring about these children, and my whole point is care about these children first and talk politics later.


You’re being ridiculous. You don’t know these people. All you can do is pray for them or whatever. What else are people going to do, just spend a day or two saying, man that’s awful. They want to talk about the issues. Is there a mourning time we have to go through for people we don’t even know before we can discuss these issues? How long is it?
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
14073 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 10:34 am to
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SHOCKER ALERT: Attacks on Catholic and Christian churches have skyrocketed by a staggering 730% since 2018!


I know I've seen the stat that attacks on synagogues are up too. Know what isn't seeing a rise in attacks, mosques. Guess who the left tells us is the most targeted religious group in America is?
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138932 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 10:36 am to
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Nobody has a "gender reveal party" because they're distinguishing sex from gender. People have "gender reveal parties" because nobody wants to put "sex reveal party" on an invitation.

These people are hammers desperately seeking a nail to hit
Posted by Old Character
Member since Jan 2018
1578 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 10:37 am to
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Gender is a social expression of sex.


So when did this happen and when did it become widely accepted as truth (if it has)? Did someone decide this or has there always been this definition of gender?
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87383 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 10:39 am to
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It’s not assigned, it’s observed and documented.


Normal people have always treated the concept of gender as a direct outpouring from biological sex. It can be used to note abnormal characteristics in the opposite sex (a woman having masculine features, attitudes, so forth), but it is derived from and inseparably intertwined with biological sex.

There is absolutely zero question that the modern/postmodern use of "gender" to mean something independent and to be assigned/found/discovered is novel and inorganic.
Posted by Tyga Woods
South Central Jupiter Island, FL
Member since Sep 2016
42295 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 10:41 am to
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it is why people do not have sex reveal parties when expecting but have gender reveal parties


Posted by TideCPA
Member since Jan 2012
14128 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 10:45 am to
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Normal people have always treated the concept of gender as a direct outpouring from biological sex
It's even in the dictionary. From Webster:
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woman, noun: an adult female person
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female, adjective: of, relating to, or being the sex that typically has the capacity to bear young or produce eggs

Oxford has similar definitions. By definition, there is no such thing as a "trans woman" or "trans man".
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
84759 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 10:47 am to
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Nobody has a "gender reveal party" because they're distinguishing sex from gender. People have "gender reveal parties" because nobody wants to put "sex reveal party" on an invitation.


What an amazing time to be alive. You had to explain this to a grown man. Or grown something. Not sure if he’s a man or woman today. He hasn’t told us.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
37085 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 10:52 am to
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Nobody has a "gender reveal party" because they're distinguishing sex from gender. People have "gender reveal parties" because nobody wants to put "sex reveal party" on an invitation.


And it what Augusta is droning on about were actually true, gender reveal parties wouldn't even exist because the child is not yet part of society and therefore their gender would be impossible to know/reveal.
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