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re: Mass casualty shooting in Minneapolis at a church school 20 victims
Posted on 8/28/25 at 8:53 am to Tyga Woods
Posted on 8/28/25 at 8:53 am to Tyga Woods
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Identifying isn’t reality. My daughter thought she was a cat when she was four. Would even hiss at people.
Most kids do something similar....most will do so with gender, not uncommon at all. Problems arise when a 3 year old boy tells his mama he is a girl and the mama over reacts one way or the other....when the correct response is the same as it would be when they say they are a cat...ignore it or even play along, they change their minds. If they do not do so over time it may become necessary to seek help but rushing a 3 year old boy off to a psychiatrist or worse because he found his Mama's lipstick and smeared it all over his face is a bad idea....
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Posted on 8/28/25 at 8:53 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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One of my kids thinks he is a lawnmower and walks around in a defined grid pattern making engine noises
If he’s still doing it at 16, you’re gonna have to break the tough news
Posted on 8/28/25 at 8:54 am to HouseMom
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Nobody is arguing that biological sex and gender mean the exact same thing. We use words like boy, man, guy, dude, fellow, etc. in casual language to describe biological males and words like girl, woman, chick, lady, babe, to describe biological females.
There are multiple posts to this thread which are indeed arguing they are the same thing.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 8:56 am to AwgustaDawg
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You are 100% correct as any person who is not ignorant or willfully ignorant or just stupid knows. Science can indeed identify biological sex, it is an undeniable fact...and with the exception of very rare examples there are 2 biological sexes and almost every human being who ever lived, lives now or will live in the future is biologically one or the other. This is a fact which cannot be denied despite there being people who do indeed deny this fact...they are simply wrong. There are also people whop deny that the earth is not flat.
You are also 100% that SOCIALLY, the word you used, almost everyone would identify the mythical bearded person I used as an example as a man and even a biological male based on the social expectations most of us share about what that means. The issue arises when the individual in question does not identify themselves as a man or a biological male. Fortunately for most people this is never an issue, most of us never consider our gender identity...we are what other see us as. For some people this is not the case. Given the small portion of humanity who experiences this it is indeed, by definition, strange, weird, out of the ordinary, whatever term, because it is outside of what is normal. There is a lot of shite that is weird...folks are different, some very different. Different isn't inherently wrong, its simply different.
You are off the mark as far a gender and sex being synonymous. This has somewhat been the case since sometime in the mid 15th century yet English dictionaries then and now made clear distinctions that the terms were not interchangable given that sex is a biological fact while gender is based on social expectations. The English versions of the 2 terms have been in use since the 5th century and for about 1000 years were not considered synonymous and the Latin versions of both predate that usage by about 2000 years so for at least 3500 years of human usage of the terms in any manner they have only been loosely related for about 500 or about 14% of the time they have existed. Historically the terms were not synonymous and they are not consider synonymous today by lexicographers.
Finally gaslighting. A pattern of misunderstanding terms emerges. Generally gaslighting is defined as " a form of psychological abuse or manipulation in which the abuser attempts to sow self-doubt and confusion in their victim’s mind. Typically, gaslighters are seeking to gain power and control over the other person, by [b]distorting reality and forcing them to question their own judgment and intuition". Stating a fact which is verifiable by anyone interested in verifying it is not "distorting reality". If someone tells you 2 plus 2 is 4 they are not gaslighting you, they are merely pointing out a fact. If you believed or thought 2 plus 2 was 5 you were simply wrong. When I wrote that sex and gender are not synonymous I did so because they are not and the data is abundantly clear that they are not....just like 2 plus 2 is 4. An individual can have an opinion, we all do, and they can vary from person to person. We can't have our own facts however. 2 plus 2 is 4 every day of the week and twice on Sunday, as they say. If a person chooses to thing 2 plus 2 is 5 that is a decision the person is making, one which ignores a blatantly obvious and well known fact. If someone tells that person they are wrong they aren't trying to manipulate their perception or judgement, they are merely pointing out they are objectively wrong.
You typed all of this shite, and can't tell us how cutting your penis off to make a vagina is "gender affirming care".
If having a vagina doesn't make you female, then why does an aftermarket man made one affirm that you are female?
This post was edited on 8/28/25 at 8:57 am
Posted on 8/28/25 at 8:58 am to OMLandshark
That is Sammy and AugustaDawgs people. They support those views
Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:06 am to Pettifogger
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I’m guessing Sammy won’t respond to the mainstreaming of violent rhetoric in trans culture like that magazine
Cross dressing Sammy is rooting for more dead kids. They are cowards, they target children so they don’t have to face real men
Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:17 am to Klark Kent
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Congrats, AwgustaDog! You just wrote another 2,000 word essay to circle back and basically agree with me.
Science determines sex, dictionaries did list sex and gender as synonyms, and your “unknowable = undefined” dodge is still gaslighting no matter how much bad math homework you sprinkle in.
I’ll admit for an old guy, you’ve got stamina. You don’t argue, you filibuster — drowning threads in essays nobody reads. Here’s a tip: Brevity…. it’s the difference between making a point and being background noise.
Again, science does indeed know how to determine sex. It does not and never has been able to determine gender. This is why gender is a social construct and it is why people do not have sex reveal parties when expecting but have gender reveal parties usually by using something blue or pink to reveal the gender THEY have assigned to their soon to be born child. There is NOTHING inherently blue or pink about a male or female child LOL...yet socially we all agree blue indicates a boy and pink indicates a girl and for the most part the baby agrees....some, at some point, do not agree with the summation others have made about them with no input from them. Imagine if you were living you life day to day as a man, dressing like a man, looking like a man, acting like a man....but everyone you met identified you as a woman. That is, from my understanding, what trans people deal with.....it would cause some issues for most people. Most people would probably deal with it by conforming to the opinions of others but they would not do so without some emotional scarring.
I don't get it. I was born a biological male and was identified as a male from the time the doctor slapped me on my arse....I have never questioned it and no one has ever thought I was anything other than a male. Outside of my own personal experience I know full well this is not the experience of every human being on the planet....and understanding the fallout from having those issues it is damned difficult to understand why someone would choose to pretend to be something others do not accept...therefore I assume most trans people are not pretending, they are actually "uncomfortable" with what society expects of them. I do not think there is anything to gain by me personally adding to that person's already difficult lot in life. It is also none of my damned business for what its worth. This being the case I simply decide to allow others the same considerations they allow me when it does no harm...and for the most part there is no harm done. This is not to suggest that children should be mutilated, something that has rarely happened but should NEVER happen. Trans people also should not have to deal with hatred and vilification and ostracization....but they do. As a people and a person we decide how to treat people....some of us try to treat people as we would like to be treated. Some of us only pay lip service to that and expect it to be a one way street and far too many simply excuse that idea out of hand....
Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:17 am to AwgustaDawg
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Most kids do something similar....most will do so with gender, not uncommon at all. Problems arise when a 3 year old boy tells his mama he is a girl and the mama over reacts one way or the other....when the correct response is the same as it would be when they say they are a cat...ignore it or even play along, they change their minds. If they do not do so over time it may become necessary to seek help but rushing a 3 year old boy off to a psychiatrist or worse because he found his Mama's lipstick and smeared it all over his face is a bad idea....
When I was about 4 or 5, I wanted to be Little Toot…
I’m just grateful my mom didn’t take me to the river and throw me in behind a barge.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:18 am to AwgustaDawg
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It does not and never has been able to determine gender.
Can you stfu already?
Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:23 am to AwgustaDawg
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I don't get it. I was born a biological male and was identified as a male from the time the doctor slapped me on my arse....I have never questioned it and no one has ever thought I was anything other than a male. Outside of my own personal experience I know full well this is not the experience of every human being on the planet....and understanding the fallout from having those issues it is damned difficult to understand why someone would choose to pretend to be something others do not accept...therefore I assume most trans people are not pretending, they are actually "uncomfortable" with what society expects of them.
What’s not to get? They’re mentally ill. They have a mental derangement that they’re the opposite gender from what they actually are. It’s a textbook mental illness. It even has a name, specifically “gender dysphoria”. It needs serious mental treatment.
What people suffering from gender dysphoria definitely don’t need is to indulge their delusions. Do we do this with any other mental condition?
Do we tell people with anorexia they’re fat and give them liposuction?
Do we tell people who think they’re a bird that they can indeed fly?
Name me one other mental derangement where it’s medically acceptable to indulge their delusions instead of treating them.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:27 am to AwgustaDawg
If society is just “assigning” gender, then you’re suggesting it’s subjective, fluid, and open to interpretation — which completely undercuts your obsession with pretending it’s some clean divide carved in stone since the 5th century.
The irony in this latest sermon of yours is hard to miss: you preach “tolerance” and “none of my damned business,” yet every essay you churn out makes it everyone’s business by speaking in absolutes.
Once again, you’ve tried to win a Pulitzer on a forum board while stumbling over the very nonsense you pushed in your earlier posts.
The irony in this latest sermon of yours is hard to miss: you preach “tolerance” and “none of my damned business,” yet every essay you churn out makes it everyone’s business by speaking in absolutes.
Once again, you’ve tried to win a Pulitzer on a forum board while stumbling over the very nonsense you pushed in your earlier posts.
This post was edited on 8/28/25 at 9:33 am
Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:31 am to AwgustaDawg
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AwgustaDawg
You seem like someone who has child porn hidden on your computer and justifies it using your leftist logic
Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:34 am to AwgustaDawg
Sex and Gender are the same thing. You wackos choosing to try to change language to make them not doesn't change it to any normal person.
Gender dysphoria is a mental illness that the person suffering with it needs psychological help with, not to have their delusions confirmed.
Gender dysphoria is a mental illness that the person suffering with it needs psychological help with, not to have their delusions confirmed.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:37 am to OMLandshark
First day back to school for private and charter schools.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:37 am to Bourre
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You seem like someone who has child porn hidden on your computer and justifies it using your leftist logic
"Age of consent" laws are government tyranny, ask any staunch Libertarian
Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:44 am to Darth_Vader
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Anyone else notice how the media has for years made it a point to always refer to transgenders by their “preferred” gender and castigated anyone not doing by accusing them of “misgendering” trans people. But now that this guy, who’s “trans” and has identified as female for the last several years has gone and shot up a school, instead of referring to him as “she”, they’re referring to him as male. Wonder why it’s suddenly ok to misgender again?
Yes it’s noticed.
Another observation: Increased radicalization and gravitation towards violence despite massive gains in cultural acceptance for trans people and more empathy for their issues.
There is something causing this that should not be dismissed as generic mental illness or the impact or whatever hastily prescribed drugs they are on to treat their identity disorder.
There are radical elements that have infiltrated and hijacked a lot of political movements. Trans people are already unstable….thus more impressionable to these bad actors. But it’s not limited to just LGBTQ+ groups. It’s in a lot of places in our political and media landscape.
This was just one of several terrorist attacks targeting innocent children in recent years. They all scare people and result in additional security in our schools as a response. We’ve also had two legitimate assassination attempts on President Trump - one being extremely close - made by extremists.
We need to figure out how these people are being radicalized domestically. I’m not saying we censor, but we need to see where this is coming from and who is funding this effort. And at the very least we need to understand the warning signs of someone who is becoming a radical, intolerant left wing extremist.
This post was edited on 8/28/25 at 9:47 am
Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:53 am to Klark Kent
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If society is just “assigning” gender, then you’re suggesting it’s subjective, fluid, and open to interpretation — which completely undercuts your obsession with pretending it’s some clean divide carved in stone since the 5th century.
The irony in this latest sermon of yours is hard to miss: you preach “tolerance” and “none of my damned business,” yet every essay you churn out makes it everyone’s business by speaking in absolutes.
Once again, you’ve tried to win a Pulitzer on a forum board while stumbling over the very nonsense you pushed in your earlier posts.
the useful idiots are never aware that they're out of tune with their own prophets. judith butler is the philosopher who is most well-known for the idea that "gender is a performance" and she goes a step further and says that biologocal sex isn't real, instead something "assigned" by the medical profession and reinforced by gender.
folks on here who espouse the old-fashioned idea that "sex and gender are the same thing" are actually closer in thinking to a radical like butler. as you point out, augustadawg is just running his mouth and doesn't know what he's saying
and that's why it always struck me as odd that the fierce epigones of this ideology insist that misgendering or mis-sexing someone is the gravest sin - if there is no absolute, if both gender and sex are fluid performances and social/cultural constructs, how on earth can they proclaim something like "bruce jenner is a WOMAN" no questions asked. they're clueless about their own ideology...
Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:53 am to AwgustaDawg
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science does indeed know how to determine sex. It does not and never has been able to determine gender.
That's stupid. Biological sex and gender are the same.
Parents believe and try to convince themselves that their child is 'misgender', don't want to come to terms that their child is actually gay.
Because currently it's a lot more acceptable to claim that your male child is misgendered and should be a girl, than your boy likes other boys.
This post was edited on 8/28/25 at 9:59 am
Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:55 am to bad93ex
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"Age of consent" laws are government tyranny,
Someone has been watching Blackbird
Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:55 am to Klark Kent
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false equivalence.
It’s not
Trying to score political points immediately after a tragedy is shitty regardless of the political point.
This post was edited on 8/28/25 at 9:58 am
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