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re: Map showing % of children enrolled in Private Schools 1-12

Posted on 4/1/18 at 8:51 pm to
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
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Posted on 4/1/18 at 8:51 pm to
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Why are you laughing? I know that's not the case (that Louisiana residents don't pay school taxes if their kids go to private school).

I wasn't the one who madethe statement, though.

Subtle sarcasm is lost on milllenials.


I was laughing Bc I thought you were seriously asking the question. I assumed you referred to some sort of tax credit for private schools. I didn’t think anyone had brought the topic up in the thread. I’m not sure how I was supposed to know that you were being sarcastic.
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Subtle sarcasm is lost on milllenials.

I’m 38 years old. I think I’m one of those newfangled Xennials.

Anyway, I guess you got me good. I should’ve sensed the sarcasm by the font. Next time I’ll know not to take you seriously and I’ll give you a less serious response than “LOL”.
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
47222 posts
Posted on 4/1/18 at 8:56 pm to
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Being in one of the few parishes that have great public schools is quite excellent.

I'd like to see a per parish breakdown of that map bc I'm sure Orleans, Jefferson and BR make that outcome as radical as it appears.


nah,

st landry is one of the poorer parishes but exact same scenario.
Posted by haricot rouge
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Sep 2006
894 posts
Posted on 4/1/18 at 8:57 pm to
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As is, public schools benefit from Private Schools by being able time split the budget by less students.

Pretty sure the public schools couldn’t handle the influx if private schools were shut down.


This.

Would be interesting if one year, for shits & giggles, all private school families would register their kids in public school. System shut down.
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 4/1/18 at 8:58 pm to
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 I assumed you referred to some sort of tax credit for private schools. 

We get to write off 5k in private school tuition in LA. In the grand scheme of things it doesn't amount to much. Maybe a few hundred less in state taxes.
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 4/1/18 at 9:01 pm to
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So what's the answer?



Unfortunately, I don't see it changing.

Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 4/1/18 at 9:04 pm to
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We get to write off 5k in private school tuition in LA


Is that it? Is that per child? Only for state and not federal? That isn’t shite compared to what I pay.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
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Posted on 4/1/18 at 9:05 pm to
Why do La kids score so poorly on tests if such a large number go to private school?
Posted by TDcline
American Gardens building 11th flor
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 4/1/18 at 9:06 pm to
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In my opinion, it appears to be more of a culture issue. The private schools have taken all of the decent families out of the public system and has become entrenched. Public education will never improve because none of the good families appear to want to be the first to take the plunge.

Private schools where I am are very few in number and cater really only to the upper class. The rural areas still have some segregation academies.

The public high school I went to was about a 50/50 split racially. It included a cross section of wealth. It had trash, it had fights, but it also had a lot of achieving students who have gone on to do great things. Hell, I think it did a lot of good for everyone to be around all that diversity.



You pretty much hit the nail on the head with most of this. It sucks because those of us who would like to see the state do better educationally are simply SOL. As I said in the OP, i'm not Catholic but I want my kid to go to a good school. Louisiana's education system provides me with crappy schools. Some have pointed out some decent schools but there looks to be a handful in the entire state.... and those aren't THAT great.

Good to get an outsider's perspective. So many here attended private schools and are attached at the hip to them, so it's like pulling teeth to get them to admit that it's not normal to have this many private schools.
This post was edited on 4/1/18 at 9:08 pm
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Posted on 4/1/18 at 9:08 pm to
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Is that it? Is that per child? Only for state and not federal? That isn’t shite compared to what I pay

Only state and I believe it is per child (we only have one in school). Yep - we pay about 10.5k for one kid.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
53751 posts
Posted on 4/1/18 at 9:08 pm to
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Why do La kids score so poorly on tests if such a large number go to private school?
pretty sure those in private schools aren't required to do any standardized tests...
Posted by ruzil
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2012
18159 posts
Posted on 4/1/18 at 9:09 pm to
I wonder what color DC is?!
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 4/1/18 at 9:10 pm to
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Only state and I believe it is per child (we only have one in school). Yep - we pay about 10.5k for one kid.


Same here but I have two.
Posted by RoyalWe
Prairieville, LA
Member since Mar 2018
4291 posts
Posted on 4/1/18 at 9:11 pm to
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Public education will never improve because none of the good families appear to want to be the first to take the plunge.
As someone who attended public school in EBR from K-12 and who has kids in private school, I will give you my perspective. I got a decent public education. To get that education, I had to apply to the gifted program and then be willing to accept 45 min - 1 hr one-way drive to and from the 'underprivileged' school I attended. I had friends who were sent across town while another friend was sent local. Same age, same grade, but sent to different schools. In high school I had the option of attending a local school and so I chose to do that. I took all the college bound courses and that insulated me from those cared less about learning.

What I value in private education is that my kid will graduate from a school where they have been there from K-12. Some of the kids will have been together that entire time. School pride? Got it. Life-long friends. Yep, got that too. Good education? Absolutely. Involved parents? We're good there too.

In today's EBR public school system, my children would get none of this. Solve the socioeconomic problems of the 'underprivileged' students and maybe the schools will improve. However, my kids won't voluntarily be sent into that system as long as I have the means. I can't wait until they go to college so I will save money.
Posted by cssamerican
Member since Mar 2011
7927 posts
Posted on 4/1/18 at 9:13 pm to
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Why do La kids score so poorly on tests if such a large number go to private school?

Private schools don’t take test like the state test like the LEAP. If you are referring to ACTs or SATs I would be curious to see the numbers. Some private schools like Catholic High or Episcopal do really well to my knowledge; however, if you kid can’t pass the LEAP test you could send your kid to private school just so they could get a high school diploma instead of a Certificate of Attendance. I doubt that happens often, but it is possible under the current school system accountability structure. Like I said earlier we have a lot of rules here that don’t make much sense.
Posted by Janky
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Posted on 4/1/18 at 9:16 pm to
When I was in private school I got a 21 and was the 3rd lowest in my class. I was and still am the village idiot.
Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 4/1/18 at 9:25 pm to
I’d actually pay a bit more in property taxes if I knew it would be used wisely for improving my area’s public education.

I could (and did) not in good conscience send my own children to an under-serving school district in some effort to assist it from within.

My forebearers would come out of their graves to haunt me if I compromised my offsprings’ potential for some pyhrric social justice exploit.
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Member since Feb 2018
53099 posts
Posted on 4/1/18 at 9:28 pm to
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Same here but I have two

Catholic, non-religious or another denomination?
Posted by Quatre Pot
Member since Jan 2015
1766 posts
Posted on 4/1/18 at 9:29 pm to
So let me get this straight- you're blaming Louisiana's shite school system on the parents who choose to leave the school system???
Some parents don't send their children to a private school for anything other than a catholic/ Christian education. If La public schools became the Ivy League tomorrow my kids would still go to catholic school because my family values faith as much as math when it comes to education
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
33280 posts
Posted on 4/1/18 at 9:30 pm to
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it appears to be more of a culture issue. The private schools have taken all of the decent families out of the public system and has become entrenched. Public education will never improve because none of the good families appear to want to be the first to take the plunge.



Louisiana has some unique cultural divides. South Louisiana is mostly Catholic. That area actually had rural towns where the only school was a Catholic one. Spain and France governed that area before the US took it over. There has always been a segment of South Louisiana's population that attended Catholic Schools.

North Louisiana is more like East Texas, or Mississippi. Way more Protestant than Catholic. The larger towns always had a Catholic school, but there were hardly any other private schools in the northern part of the state until integration started. There are lots of Christian schools in North Louisiana now, and there's been a huge increase in Charter schools since they started getting state money.


Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 4/1/18 at 9:30 pm to
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What I value in private education is that my kid will graduate from a school where they have been there from K-12. Some of the kids will have been together that entire time.


Do kids in Louisiana's public school system not stay together as they move from elementary to middle to high school?

I mean, you may change buildings a couple times as you age, but the group of kids stays together from K-12 in the public system.

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Solve the socioeconomic problems of the 'underprivileged' students and maybe the schools will improve.


But this kind of goes back to my point.
This post was edited on 4/1/18 at 9:35 pm
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