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re: Man Tells Cops They Can't Search His Home Without A Warrant, Cops Kill Him

Posted on 11/16/15 at 12:47 pm to
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38388 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 12:47 pm to
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Also don't fight with cops. Even if you are right you will still lose. It's not worth it.


Easy to say now but I think most of us would panic if our door was kicked in. Also think about being tazed. Would anyone here NOT try and stop someone from tazing you? Sounds like the guy panicked- from the facts at hand.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
91115 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 12:47 pm to
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As a white male, middle-aged Republican, anyone that thinks cops don't abuse their powers, especially when minorities or poor people are involved, are naïve.


some do, obviously. Just like some doctors, lawyers, teachers, governers, truck drivers, ballplayers, and pretty much every profession in history has people that do bad things too. It's just that in today's world, when cops frick up it makes the news so people can lash out against them.

Many cops abuse their power and are complete frickups that have no business doing what they do, and should honestly be in jail. Far, far, FAR more just go about their business everyday and nobody ever hears about them.
Posted by John88
Member since Sep 2015
6439 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 12:47 pm to
Lemme guess. The bodycam just happened to be off?
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21849 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 12:53 pm to
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So much done wrong by both sides. Just wait outside until a warrant


It will be interesting to see how this plays out in court. Busting into someone's house without consent, an exigent circumstance, a warrant, or probable cause is a big no no.

Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 12:55 pm to
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Bet he won't be denying any more searches will he?
Obviously, you can't comprehend the importance of warrants and standing up for your rights.
Posted by sullivanct19a
Florida
Member since Oct 2015
5239 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 1:00 pm to
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anyone that thinks cops don't abuse their powers, especially when minorities or poor people are involved, are naïve.


I think a lot of people would agree with that statement. So, it makes me wonder: why aren't the BLM type protests taking place at police stations? Why aren't they cornering police cars on the street? Why are they going into the Dartmouth library to start things?
Posted by Nodust
Member since Aug 2010
22808 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 1:07 pm to
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Easy to say now but I think most of us would panic if our door was kicked in. Also think about being tazed. Would anyone here NOT try and stop someone from tazing you? Sounds like the guy panicked- from the fac

You ar correct. But no matter how wrong the cops were and even if they are convicted of wrongdoing the guy is dead. So he loses.

Better to not be an idiot and live another day.
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
40389 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 1:07 pm to
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Many cops abuse their power and are complete frickups that have no business doing what they do, and should honestly be in jail. Far, far, FAR more just go about their business everyday and nobody ever hears about them.


I don't disagree with this and I would be willing to bet it is factually correct.

I think the issue that most have with cops, unlike those other professions you mentioned, is that cops turn a very blind eye to what other cops do.
This applies to even the good cops.

I think more and more people, even those who don't or haven't had interactions with the police, are seeing this. For some, it comes as a surprise, given our previous opinions about law enforcement.
Posted by Five0
Member since Dec 2009
11354 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 1:08 pm to
Clearly no meth involved in this story.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 1:11 pm to
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I think the issue that most have with cops, unlike those other professions you mentioned, is that cops turn a very blind eye to what other cops do.
This applies to even the good cops.


There are far more good cops than bad cops, but the good ones need to realize weeding the bad will help their cause. Defending cops who kill unarmed people is going to hurt their cause. It's systematic though.
Posted by TigerNlc
Chocolate City
Member since Jun 2006
33222 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 1:11 pm to
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
38468 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 1:13 pm to
So the witnesses admitted he was not only going for the cop's taser, but had hold of it. 100% justified shooting
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
20409 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 1:17 pm to
WAIT! LSUTANGERINE just backed up the cops!!!

Wait a minute.....


ISWYDT. White dude got killed. Never mind.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
36823 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 1:18 pm to
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Also don't fight with cops. Even if you are right you will still lose. It's not worth it.


Similar to how they told black men in the50's not to be looking at the white women? While what you say may be true, it doesn't make it right and the more you repeat it the more we start to rationalize it.
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
63520 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 1:19 pm to
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I hope the cops had body cameras.




Yep
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87748 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 1:24 pm to
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Many cops abuse their power and are complete frickups that have no business doing what they do, and should honestly be in jail. Far, far, FAR more just go about their business everyday and nobody ever hears about them.



Problem with cops is that I think:

5% are corrupt/criminal
20% are bad at their job for one reason or another
25% are decent enough but would actively cover up for the first two categories
25% are decent enough but would fail to do shite about the first two categories
25% would actively seek to curb bad cop behavior
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
74661 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 1:31 pm to
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So the witnesses admitted he was not only going for the cop's taser, but had hold of it. 100% justified shooting


What did he do that made the cops taze him?
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
19366 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 1:33 pm to
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He was not fighting back but trying to get the taser out of the officers hand?

So much done wrong by both sides. Just wait outside until a warrant

Also don't fight with cops. Even if you are right you will still lose. It's not worth it.


Are you fricking retarded. If a cop is beating you for no reason you're not supposed to defend yourself?
Posted by Dick Leverage
In The HizHouse
Member since Nov 2013
9000 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 1:33 pm to
Could you put that into graph format? I need to show a guy on FB who I am arguing with these stats.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
19366 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 1:34 pm to
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Problem with cops is that I think:

5% are corrupt/criminal
20% are bad at their job for one reason or another
25% are decent enough but would actively cover up for the first two categories
25% are decent enough but would fail to do shite about the first two categories
25% would actively seek to curb bad cop behavior


Where the frick are these 25%?
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