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re: Man killed in road rage incident. Self-defense (graphic video in OP). New info in OP

Posted on 7/18/24 at 2:26 pm to
Posted by Relham10
Ridge
Member since Jan 2013
18669 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 2:26 pm to
Dumbass. Dont appoach a scene like that unless you plan on killing someone or being killed.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
71861 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 2:26 pm to
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It honestly is so clear it should be used as the video for self defense on wiki
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
35123 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 2:26 pm to
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No idea the SD laws in Indiana

But I imagine in most sane places he could have legally used deadly force while he was approaching with the gun regardless of banging on the window, bringing his hand up, etc.


Pretty sure approaching someone's vehicle like that without a weapon is considered assault in LA.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
28714 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 2:31 pm to
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But it was completely out of the view of the driver (happened below the waist) AND the hand he raised was the one the gun was in when he banged on the door.




Correct, no way for the shooter to know and was 100% ok to shoot him.

He shoudl have actually shot him the moment he started approaching his truck with a gun in his hand, and the dumbass should have been dead before he had an opportunity to bang on the window.

You get out of your car with a gun in your hand hollering at someone and walking towards them, they should shoot you asap.
Posted by Luke
1113 Chartres Street, NOLA
Member since Nov 2004
13952 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 2:31 pm to
This makes me question “a jury of my peers”…
Posted by hall59tiger
Member since Oct 2013
2786 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 2:31 pm to
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The guy was armed but he wasn't pointing at them when they shot him. I honestly don't know.


If you aggressively approach me, bang a gun on my car, then abruptly throw up the hand the gun was just in and direct it towards my face I’m shooting your pretty much every time. If my family is in the car you are probably getting shot as you step out the car with a gun.
This post was edited on 7/18/24 at 2:32 pm
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
33920 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 2:33 pm to
When keeping it real goes wrong
Posted by DarkDrifter
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2011
4169 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 2:35 pm to
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If my family is in the car you are probably getting shot as you step out the car with a gun.


100%.. Hell my wife and I both carry.. we'd both shoot the shite outta someone like that approaching us with the kids in the car
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104840 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 2:36 pm to
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guy was armed but he wasn't pointing at them when they shot him. I honestly don't know.
Its not a fricking duel

If you let him point the gun first you are dead
Posted by DevilDagNS
Member since Dec 2017
2902 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 2:38 pm to
Absolute textbook FAFO. The dead guys estate should have to reimburse the shooter for the spent ammo.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
34218 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 2:39 pm to
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When keeping it real goes wrong


Beat me to it
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
14471 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 2:39 pm to
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I'll be curious to see if that's ruled self defense or not. The guy was armed but he wasn't pointing at them when they shot him. I honestly don't know.


If he wasn't planning on using the weapon he shouldn't have drawn it. Looks like it's clear self defense to me.
Posted by bonstonker
Member since Jan 2008
341 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 2:41 pm to
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I do feel for his wife though.


Right now yes.

But i got a feeling long term she dodged a bullet here.




Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
58141 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 2:44 pm to
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I'll be curious to see if that's ruled self defense or not. The guy was armed but he wasn't pointing at them when they shot him. I honestly don't know.



He already shown the firearm in his right hand, then he hits the truck with the firearm in his right hand he transfers the firearm to his left hand, but he does it out of sight of the person in the truck, then he quickly raises his right hand up into the person’s face that is sitting in the truck.


That person has no idea that the firearm got transferred from one hand to the other he sees is the arm and the hand that had the firearm quickly raising up towards his face

I would’ve fired into his face as well at that moment, I think anybody who would want to preserve their own life would’ve done the same
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
54969 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 2:46 pm to
People are so fkn dumb. How anyone would get angry enough to approach a stranger with a gun, for something so trivial and pointless when they could/should just walk/drive away, is beyond me.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
24690 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 2:47 pm to
I would've fired the second he walked up to me with a gun in an aggressive manner. I'm not waiting to find out what they're going to do
Posted by rexorotten
Missouri
Member since Oct 2013
4628 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 2:48 pm to
Walking up to a stranger's vehicle in a fit of rage,with a gun in hand, is a great way to get justifiably shot.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
71861 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 2:48 pm to
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she dodged a bullet here.


ISWYDT
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
34918 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 2:48 pm to
Plain as day.

As soon as he gets out of the car and starts approaching me, I'd plan on shooting him dead.

Anyone with a lick of sense would do the same.
Posted by SouthEndzoneTiger
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2008
11146 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 2:48 pm to
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But i got a feeling long term she dodged a bullet here.


She dodged a bullet, yes. Her husband, not so much.
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