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re: Lucy-Bleu Knight, the stepdaughter of Slash, died by suicide via H2S poisoning.

Posted on 9/9/24 at 9:15 am to
Posted by TheOcean
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Posted on 9/9/24 at 9:15 am to
Posted by POTUS2024
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Posted on 9/9/24 at 9:16 am to
I can't even remember reaction mechanisms with H2SO4, let alone H2S...no idea how you even get hold of that stuff.
Posted by 777Tiger
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Posted on 9/9/24 at 9:17 am to
tats

and why is it that all chicks have to accessorize by lugging around that water pail?
Posted by Jay31
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Posted on 9/9/24 at 9:18 am to
No, that’s nitrous oxide.
Posted by i am dan
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Posted on 9/9/24 at 9:18 am to
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took a safety class on confined spaces and they tell you if the guy walking in front of you passes out then you are to immediately turn around and get out. there is no saving them and if you try then you'll be dead as well. h2s is some scary shite.


I hope they told you in class to precheck a few gas levels before entering ac confined space using a Passport or some other gas meter..

There are some safety checks that should take place before entering.. also tripods can come in handy.
Posted by LilDeuceCoupe
Hooker, OK
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Posted on 9/9/24 at 9:24 am to
I was working in Hobbs and West Texas. I pick up the Hobbs newspaper. The high school kids were going out on wells and cracking a valve into the car to huff. Found 4 of them dead.
Posted by Volvagia
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Posted on 9/9/24 at 9:37 am to
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However when H2S mixes with water in your lungs it forms sulfuric acid and the H2SO4 will kill you but at a slower rate. Like chlorine gas mixes with water in your lungs to form HCL that will slowly burn your lung cells and you suffocate.





Were you actually told that or did you just make it up?

Ignoring that what you just said violates a law of thermodynamics, it’s toxic in of itself. Not because it causes physical damage to issues. It acts like carbon monoxide.

The closest effect is reacting with an alkali to make Na2S, which is a base. Not an acid.

But that’s a secondary effect. Not primary route.

A single breathe at sufficient concentrations is enough to knock you out and kill you.
This post was edited on 9/9/24 at 9:44 am
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 9/9/24 at 9:40 am to
IWHHI
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 9/9/24 at 9:45 am to
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Were you actually told that or did you just make it up?


I just looked it up. H2S plus water will release 2 H+ ions. So there is probably some cellular damage from the H+ ions like an acid but

quote:

t’s toxic in of itself. Not because it causes chemical damage.


I'm not arguing. Just view this as a casual conversation. I'm okay with being corrected here.

ETA: also I think there needs to be an investigation of how the H2S was sourced.
This post was edited on 9/9/24 at 9:47 am
Posted by Giantkiller
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Posted on 9/9/24 at 9:50 am to
Is this that shite that smells like freshly cut grass? And if you smell it, you're pretty much almost already toast.
Posted by 777Tiger
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Posted on 9/9/24 at 9:53 am to
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I just looked it up. H2S plus water will release 2 H+ ions. So there is probably some cellular damage from the H+ ions like an acid but



I've a very interesting friend, Vietnam POW, veterinarian, among other things, that was involved with environmental impact studies for the space shuttle program in just about all aspects, they determined that there was no way to operate in a way that wouldn't negatively impact just about everything nearby but we needed the benefits that the program would bring so frick the environment

one thing that was particularly interesting was that the surface around the shuttle was watered down before engine ignition and when the engines were lit off the exhaust reacting with the water formed a hydrochloric(iirc,) gas cloud, and that was the real reason for the minimum distance required for people wanting to view the launch in person
This post was edited on 9/9/24 at 9:58 am
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 9/9/24 at 9:54 am to
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Is this that shite that smells like freshly cut grass?


H2S smells like rotten eggs at low concentrations.
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 9/9/24 at 9:59 am to
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one thing that was particularly interesting was that the surface around the shuttle was watered down before engine ignition and when the engines were lit off the exhaust reacting with the water formed a hydrochloric(iirc,) gas cloud, and that was the real reason for the minimum distance required for people wanting to view the launch in person


I believe this is correct. The solid booster rockets on the space shuttle are mostly Ammonium perchlorate, NH4ClO4. Burning NH4ClO4 results in a cloud of HCL.
Posted by WhiteMandingo
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Posted on 9/9/24 at 11:38 am to
Nobody is mentioning her boob's, the OT is slipping
She had nice boob's, terrible tatoos
Posted by MikeD
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Posted on 9/9/24 at 11:59 am to
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Is this that shite that smells like freshly cut grass? And if you smell it, you're pretty much almost already toast.


Is that phosgene?
Posted by RolltidePA
North Carolina
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 9/9/24 at 12:10 pm to
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Is this that shite that smells like freshly cut grass? And if you smell it, you're pretty much almost already toast. Is that phosgene?


Yes, that’s Phosgene. Randomly, I remember that from being prepped for chemical warfare.
This post was edited on 9/9/24 at 12:13 pm
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 9/9/24 at 12:15 pm to
Yeah, those are useful if your employer actually calibrates them.
Posted by Sweep Da Leg
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 9/9/24 at 12:38 pm to
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I would clip it as close to your nose as possible. The collar is a good area.


He’s joking because 90% of offshore and refinery guys wear them on their hard hats like idiots.
Posted by Tree_Fall
Member since Mar 2021
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Posted on 9/9/24 at 12:54 pm to
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no idea how you even get hold of that stuff


H2S can be made by several chemical reactions, but they require technical know-how and access to industrial chemicals.

Biologically all it takes is bacterial decomposition of organics in seawater where there is little or no oxygen. The SO4 in seawater is reduced to H2S.

That's the reaction that makes the seawater sewage-treatment systems on rigs and ships so extremely dangerous.

LINK

Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 9/9/24 at 12:57 pm to
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H2S can be made by several chemical reactions, but they require technical know-how and access to industrial chemicals.

Biologically all it takes is bacterial decomposition of organics in seawater where there is little or no oxygen. The SO4 in seawater is reduced to H2S.

That's the reaction that makes the seawater sewage-treatment systems on rigs and ships so extremely dangerous.


Right.

This suicide took little technical know how. Getting help should be investigated.
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