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re: LSU student is starting a Black Mental Health Hotline

Posted on 7/21/20 at 9:12 pm to
Posted by Rouge
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Posted on 7/21/20 at 9:12 pm to
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guess I don’t understand why what LSU offers isn’t good enough


STOP WITH THIS INSANITY!!?
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 7/21/20 at 9:12 pm to
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It does

The value of being black over being american



What about, and I'm going to blow your mind with this, if this is about the value of being black AND American? And how for decades (look the shite up) you couldn't be black and have mental health issues in the United States because of racism and their own people not wanting to show any weakness?

This isn't about separation, it's about creating something that makes black AMERICANS talk about their problems so they can get guidance.
This post was edited on 7/21/20 at 9:13 pm
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Posted on 7/21/20 at 9:12 pm to
White mental health hotline has a nice ring to it.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 7/21/20 at 9:16 pm to
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This isn't about separation, it's about creating something that makes black AMERICANS talk about their problems so they can get guidance.
This is where I’m at. And it’s not exclusive to blacks. Asians are more likely to seek other Asians for help. Whites for whites. Religions are similar. Jews seek out Jews. And so on. This isn’t some earth shattering concept.
Posted by Rouge
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Posted on 7/21/20 at 9:18 pm to
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if this is about the value of being black AND American?


It's not. The is the UNITED states. This is not about unity.

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And how for decades (look the shite up) you couldn't be black and have mental health issues in the United States because of racism and their own people not wanting to show any weakness?
racism cures mental illness? Well hell, let me call the medical review boards.

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This isn't about separation, it's about creating something that makes black AMERICANS talk about their problems so they can get guidance.
those avenues have been available for decades. This is just another way of putting a black label on a common product in order to segregate. That is ok.
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 7/21/20 at 9:19 pm to
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This is just another way of putting a black label on a common product in order to segregate. That is ok.
And if it works to help someone off a cliff? Or helps a woman get away from abuse? Or a kid ready to quit college?
Posted by tgrgrd00
Kenner, LA
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 7/21/20 at 9:21 pm to
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White mental health hotline has a nice ring to it.


Exactly.

If the same article was written for a white mental health hotline the vitriol would be off the charts.

Instead since it's a black hotline it gets lauded as a great achievement with every reason in the world why it's ok to segregate.

Any questions as to why it need to be black gets a condescending tone as to how can you not understand?

I do not understand because there certainly seems to be a double standard. It's confusing and nobody can explain why it's ok for blacks to segregate but not ok for other races.

Posted by pmacneworleans
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 7/21/20 at 9:21 pm to
BS - you were trying to needlessly flame racial tensions. Just take off your hood next time if your trying to be suureptitious.
Posted by Rouge
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Posted on 7/21/20 at 9:22 pm to
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And if it works to help someone off a cliff? Or helps a woman get away from abuse? Or a kid ready to quit college?



What do you want? I said it was ok. Just admit that it is what it is.
Posted by The Pirate King
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Posted on 7/21/20 at 9:25 pm to
I don’t understand segregating races again as a means to bring “equality”
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88469 posts
Posted on 7/21/20 at 9:26 pm to
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Just take off your hood next time if your trying to be suureptitious.
you’re*
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88469 posts
Posted on 7/21/20 at 9:34 pm to
It’s acknowledging reality. Not a racial one per se but one based on biases. People tend to trust those who are more likely to have a similar backgrounds: race, sex, religion, age, etc. Therapy is weird. It’s about open communication. It’s not like seeing any doctor where all you care about is if they can diagnose and perform surgeries extremely well. There’s more nuance to psychiatry. In this instance, I can see the need for a hotline tailored to this specific group. Just like other groups: suicide risks, gamblers, etc.
This post was edited on 7/21/20 at 9:35 pm
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12866 posts
Posted on 7/21/20 at 9:42 pm to
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So racism and segregation is ok when it comes to mental health. Got it.

FFS. You want to make this a story of segregation. In reality, it’s a story of a young lady acknowledging an issue in the black community and trying to find a way to break the stigma and encourage people to seek help when they need it. There are tons of free mental health resources. This girl is trying to encourage the black community to use them.

Maybe it does a ton of good, maybe it doesn’t help at all. But at least she’s trying. Considering the way folks around here are always screaming for black people to take responsibility for problems in the black community instead of blaming others, it’s odd to see all of the faux outrage about someone trying to do exactly that.
Posted by tgrgrd00
Kenner, LA
Member since Jun 2004
11684 posts
Posted on 7/21/20 at 9:42 pm to
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It’s acknowledging reality. Not a racial one per se but one based on biases. People tend to trust those who are more likely to have a similar backgrounds:


So you would be ok with segregated schools if someone feels they learn better in an environment around those of a similar race?

Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88469 posts
Posted on 7/21/20 at 9:46 pm to
You are ignoring my multiple posts where I say this is one instance where I think it’s a good choice to have. CHOICE!

You act like people can’t choose which private school to go to. I know many white people who choose certain private schools because there are fewer blacks. Ever heard of Silliman?
This post was edited on 7/21/20 at 9:47 pm
Posted by tgrgrd00
Kenner, LA
Member since Jun 2004
11684 posts
Posted on 7/21/20 at 10:03 pm to
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You are ignoring my multiple posts where I say this is one instance where I think it’s a good choice to have. CHOICE!

You act like people can’t choose which private school to go to. I know many white people who choose certain private schools because there are fewer blacks. Ever heard of Silliman?


Ever heard of St Augustine?

It works both ways.

You can't say segregation is ok in one instance for one group and scream for equally in the same breath.

Posted by TexasTiger89
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2005
27008 posts
Posted on 7/21/20 at 10:06 pm to
I keep getting the feeling segregation is coming back.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88469 posts
Posted on 7/21/20 at 10:22 pm to
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You can't say segregation is ok in one instance for one group
You keep calling this segregation. It’s giving people a specific choice. A girl is asking for black therapists to answer calls. Black people aren’t forced to use it. And it’s not off limits to anyone else. That is NOT segregation. We have other instances like this in society where a service is offered and the person offering the service has specific attributes/features. Hooters is one example. Women servers who have to wear a uniform to look a certain way meant to serve a specific clientele: men. Except women and kids can be served too but they’re not really there for them, are they. Make sense now?

And we don’t have to pretend like biases don’t exist when it comes to service. Businesses literally advertise and brag when they have a local support team. Why? Because people have biases against automated systems and/or talking to someone who sounds Indian. Those businesses know that customers want to talk to someone who sounds like them. It makes the customer more comfortable. Communication is easier. People generally start the conversation more amiably.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
30610 posts
Posted on 7/21/20 at 10:37 pm to
I never knew that mental health issues were associated with negative stigmas in the black community.
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
37017 posts
Posted on 7/21/20 at 10:50 pm to
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they feel they can better relate to,


However, if I do it some would consider me a racist.

I honestly don't care, other than to say if this makes it easier for people needing help get help then I'm on board.
This post was edited on 7/21/20 at 10:51 pm
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