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Posted on 7/21/20 at 9:12 pm to Rouge
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It does
The value of being black over being american
What about, and I'm going to blow your mind with this, if this is about the value of being black AND American? And how for decades (look the shite up) you couldn't be black and have mental health issues in the United States because of racism and their own people not wanting to show any weakness?
This isn't about separation, it's about creating something that makes black AMERICANS talk about their problems so they can get guidance.
This post was edited on 7/21/20 at 9:13 pm
Posted on 7/21/20 at 9:12 pm to ell_13
White mental health hotline has a nice ring to it.
Posted on 7/21/20 at 9:16 pm to whatiknowsofar
quote:This is where I’m at. And it’s not exclusive to blacks. Asians are more likely to seek other Asians for help. Whites for whites. Religions are similar. Jews seek out Jews. And so on. This isn’t some earth shattering concept.
This isn't about separation, it's about creating something that makes black AMERICANS talk about their problems so they can get guidance.
Posted on 7/21/20 at 9:18 pm to whatiknowsofar
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if this is about the value of being black AND American?
It's not. The is the UNITED states. This is not about unity.
quote:racism cures mental illness? Well hell, let me call the medical review boards.
And how for decades (look the shite up) you couldn't be black and have mental health issues in the United States because of racism and their own people not wanting to show any weakness?
quote:those avenues have been available for decades. This is just another way of putting a black label on a common product in order to segregate. That is ok.
This isn't about separation, it's about creating something that makes black AMERICANS talk about their problems so they can get guidance.
Posted on 7/21/20 at 9:19 pm to Rouge
quote:And if it works to help someone off a cliff? Or helps a woman get away from abuse? Or a kid ready to quit college?
This is just another way of putting a black label on a common product in order to segregate. That is ok.
Posted on 7/21/20 at 9:21 pm to tigerpimpbot
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White mental health hotline has a nice ring to it.
Exactly.
If the same article was written for a white mental health hotline the vitriol would be off the charts.
Instead since it's a black hotline it gets lauded as a great achievement with every reason in the world why it's ok to segregate.
Any questions as to why it need to be black gets a condescending tone as to how can you not understand?
I do not understand because there certainly seems to be a double standard. It's confusing and nobody can explain why it's ok for blacks to segregate but not ok for other races.
Posted on 7/21/20 at 9:21 pm to ell_13
BS - you were trying to needlessly flame racial tensions. Just take off your hood next time if your trying to be suureptitious.
Posted on 7/21/20 at 9:22 pm to ell_13
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And if it works to help someone off a cliff? Or helps a woman get away from abuse? Or a kid ready to quit college?
What do you want? I said it was ok. Just admit that it is what it is.
Posted on 7/21/20 at 9:25 pm to ell_13
I don’t understand segregating races again as a means to bring “equality”
Posted on 7/21/20 at 9:26 pm to pmacneworleans
quote:you’re*
Just take off your hood next time if your trying to be suureptitious.
Posted on 7/21/20 at 9:34 pm to Rouge
It’s acknowledging reality. Not a racial one per se but one based on biases. People tend to trust those who are more likely to have a similar backgrounds: race, sex, religion, age, etc. Therapy is weird. It’s about open communication. It’s not like seeing any doctor where all you care about is if they can diagnose and perform surgeries extremely well. There’s more nuance to psychiatry. In this instance, I can see the need for a hotline tailored to this specific group. Just like other groups: suicide risks, gamblers, etc.
This post was edited on 7/21/20 at 9:35 pm
Posted on 7/21/20 at 9:42 pm to Rouge
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So racism and segregation is ok when it comes to mental health. Got it.
FFS. You want to make this a story of segregation. In reality, it’s a story of a young lady acknowledging an issue in the black community and trying to find a way to break the stigma and encourage people to seek help when they need it. There are tons of free mental health resources. This girl is trying to encourage the black community to use them.
Maybe it does a ton of good, maybe it doesn’t help at all. But at least she’s trying. Considering the way folks around here are always screaming for black people to take responsibility for problems in the black community instead of blaming others, it’s odd to see all of the faux outrage about someone trying to do exactly that.
Posted on 7/21/20 at 9:42 pm to ell_13
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It’s acknowledging reality. Not a racial one per se but one based on biases. People tend to trust those who are more likely to have a similar backgrounds:
So you would be ok with segregated schools if someone feels they learn better in an environment around those of a similar race?
Posted on 7/21/20 at 9:46 pm to tgrgrd00
You are ignoring my multiple posts where I say this is one instance where I think it’s a good choice to have. CHOICE!
You act like people can’t choose which private school to go to. I know many white people who choose certain private schools because there are fewer blacks. Ever heard of Silliman?
You act like people can’t choose which private school to go to. I know many white people who choose certain private schools because there are fewer blacks. Ever heard of Silliman?
This post was edited on 7/21/20 at 9:47 pm
Posted on 7/21/20 at 10:03 pm to ell_13
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You are ignoring my multiple posts where I say this is one instance where I think it’s a good choice to have. CHOICE!
You act like people can’t choose which private school to go to. I know many white people who choose certain private schools because there are fewer blacks. Ever heard of Silliman?
Ever heard of St Augustine?
It works both ways.
You can't say segregation is ok in one instance for one group and scream for equally in the same breath.
Posted on 7/21/20 at 10:06 pm to ell_13
I keep getting the feeling segregation is coming back.
Posted on 7/21/20 at 10:22 pm to tgrgrd00
quote:You keep calling this segregation. It’s giving people a specific choice. A girl is asking for black therapists to answer calls. Black people aren’t forced to use it. And it’s not off limits to anyone else. That is NOT segregation. We have other instances like this in society where a service is offered and the person offering the service has specific attributes/features. Hooters is one example. Women servers who have to wear a uniform to look a certain way meant to serve a specific clientele: men. Except women and kids can be served too but they’re not really there for them, are they. Make sense now?
You can't say segregation is ok in one instance for one group
And we don’t have to pretend like biases don’t exist when it comes to service. Businesses literally advertise and brag when they have a local support team. Why? Because people have biases against automated systems and/or talking to someone who sounds Indian. Those businesses know that customers want to talk to someone who sounds like them. It makes the customer more comfortable. Communication is easier. People generally start the conversation more amiably.
Posted on 7/21/20 at 10:37 pm to ell_13
I never knew that mental health issues were associated with negative stigmas in the black community.
Posted on 7/21/20 at 10:50 pm to Salmon
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they feel they can better relate to,
However, if I do it some would consider me a racist.
I honestly don't care, other than to say if this makes it easier for people needing help get help then I'm on board.
This post was edited on 7/21/20 at 10:51 pm
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