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re: LSU drops 33 spots in latest U.S. News college rankings
Posted on 9/21/26 at 8:42 pm to DrrTiger
Posted on 9/21/26 at 8:42 pm to DrrTiger
This really pains me- both my wife and I graduated from LSU. We met the first day of classes. We created a good life with the education that we got at LSU.
My son goes to Tulane. Second one wants to go to MIT.
LSU wasn’t even on the radar for our family. And we still live in Louisiana.
My son goes to Tulane. Second one wants to go to MIT.
LSU wasn’t even on the radar for our family. And we still live in Louisiana.
Posted on 9/21/26 at 8:47 pm to subMOA
Hopefully Tulane gets back to its rightful place in the top 50. 
Posted on 9/21/26 at 8:48 pm to Dr Rosenrosen
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employers are aware of these rankings.
I've never once given two shits about whether a fresh grad came from LSU, UGA, Auburn, or McNeese when interviewing them. You're a shitty interviewer if you rely on shite like that.
Posted on 9/21/26 at 8:50 pm to DrrTiger
Doesn’t matter once you are after the top 50 or so.
Posted on 9/21/26 at 8:51 pm to Dr Rosenrosen
quote:Why did it drop and why is it now rising?
Hopefully Tulane gets back to its rightful place in the top 50
Posted on 9/21/26 at 8:56 pm to LemmyLives
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employers are aware of these rankings.
I've never once given two shits about whether a fresh grad came from LSU, UGA, Auburn, or McNeese when interviewing them. You're a shitty interviewer if you rely on shite like that.
Generally agree... But
IMO Things have fallen off badly at LSU especially in the last two years. It's like they decided to double down on non-SAT score type admissions following the supreme court's recent decisions on admissions. Can't say for certain.. just a feeling from interacting with current students.
Posted on 9/21/26 at 8:58 pm to Jake88
US News changed the formula to include Pell Grant recipients. Tulane took a big hit a few years ago, but I believe the formula has changed again.
Posted on 9/21/26 at 9:15 pm to DrrTiger
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Looks like William Tate left a dumpster fire behind. Hopefully Rousse can clean it up.
It was probably inflated past couple of years due to Tate being black and rapidly increasing the black % of enrollees while also bringing in plurality white freshman classes instead of majority white classes. black %’s and total numbers up while white %’s and total numbers down. During this ACT/SAT submissions dropped to 47% for fall 2024 freshmen (2025 data part of missing common data set reports mentioned below).
There is a reason why last year’s common data set reports and last spring’s demographics in the enrollment at a glance have not been published and why there has been zero 2026 freshman class highlights or facts reporting pushed out by LSU. Total white undergraduates are hovering around 50%, and this fall freshman class was Tate’s last with new guys coming in after most offers out. I doubt they could do much (supposedly tried to reduce class a little but not sure how), and it does seem like they want to wait for official census numbers for campus and freshmen to see if anything changes from the unposted 2026 spring numbers or from the preliminary fall numbers before updating all these demographic reports online.
Posted on 9/21/26 at 9:20 pm to Dr Rosenrosen
quote:I had read that Pell Grant and disadvantaged students boosted a school's rating. Ultimately, that's not a true measure of a school's worth.
US News changed the formula to include Pell Grant recipients. Tulane took a big hit a few years ago, but I believe the formula has changed again
Posted on 9/21/26 at 9:23 pm to subMOA
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This really pains me- both my wife and I graduated from LSU. We met the first day of classes. We created a good life with the education that we got at LSU. My son goes to Tulane. Second one wants to go to MIT. LSU wasn’t even on the radar for our family. And we still live in Louisiana.
My kid is a junior with straight A’s and a 29 on the ACT on her first try last year. She gets mail from so many schools across the country none of them named LSU. I’m not pushing her to make a choice but she did notice that they haven’t sent her anything.
Posted on 9/21/26 at 9:29 pm to DrrTiger
Academicians vote on this. They HATE political influence on the university. It ain’t a bad thing.
Posted on 9/21/26 at 9:36 pm to Jake88
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US News changed the formula to include Pell Grant recipients. Tulane took a big hit a few years ago, but I believe the formula has changed again
I had read that Pell Grant and disadvantaged students boosted a school's rating. Ultimately, that's not a true measure of a school's worth.
LSU had been pushing to increase the % of Pell Grant eligible freshman enrollees.
For the fall 2021 freshman class LSU even bragged 30.3% of the incoming class enrollees were Pell eligible. They then went radio silent on this in later freshmen class highlights, but the federal grant dollars seemed to keep going up for LSU’s students.
This was pushed by LSU for the fall of 2021 freshmen class:
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Students who identify as either American Indian, Black, Asian, Native Hawaiian, Hispanic, and two or more races make up more than 30 percent of the total freshman class this year. Additionally, 30.3 percent of the freshman class is Pell Eligible.
“At a time when other schools are scrambling for enrollment and in particular students of color, every year we are breaking records on both fronts,” said Vice Provost for Diversity, Equity & Inclusion and Chief Diversity Officer Dereck J. Rovaris Sr. “The record number of historically underrepresented students is indeed a reflection of the good work so many have done to make LSU a more inclusive university.”
Considering whites dropped below 50% of the incoming fall freshman classes in both 2024 and 2025 it seems likely LSU under Tate and his hires before new guys continued this Pell Grant push through this fall’s incoming freshmen class along with their non-white push.
Posted on 9/21/26 at 9:43 pm to Bestbank Tiger
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FKA sent us into a downward spiral.
He might have started it, but Tate flooded the gates.
Posted on 9/21/26 at 9:50 pm to Dr Rosenrosen
"U.S. News & World Report Ranking Algorithm
The U.S. News & World Report (USNWR) employs a specific algorithm to rank universities based on various measures of academic quality. The algorithm incorporates multiple factors, each weighted differently to contribute to the overall score of an institution.
Key Measures and Their Weights
Measure Weight (%)
Graduation and Retention Rates 35
Undergraduate Academic Reputation 20
Faculty Resources 20
Student Selectivity 10
Financial Resources 10
Alumni Giving Rate 5
Explanation of Measures
Graduation and Retention Rates (35%): This measure assesses the percentage of students who complete their degree programs and the rate at which students return for their second year.
Undergraduate Academic Reputation (20%): This is based on surveys of academic peers, where university administrators rate the academic quality of other institutions.
Faculty Resources (20%): This includes metrics such as faculty salaries, the ratio of full-time faculty to students, and the number of faculty with advanced degrees.
Student Selectivity (10%): This factor considers the admissions process, including standardized test scores and high school GPA of admitted students.
Financial Resources (10%): This measures the financial support available per student, which can impact the quality of education.
Alumni Giving Rate (5%): This reflects the percentage of alumni who donate to the institution, indicating alumni satisfaction and engagement.
These measures are designed to provide a comprehensive view of a university's performance and quality, although the methodology has faced criticism for its reliance on subjective factors like reputation."
The U.S. News & World Report (USNWR) employs a specific algorithm to rank universities based on various measures of academic quality. The algorithm incorporates multiple factors, each weighted differently to contribute to the overall score of an institution.
Key Measures and Their Weights
Measure Weight (%)
Graduation and Retention Rates 35
Undergraduate Academic Reputation 20
Faculty Resources 20
Student Selectivity 10
Financial Resources 10
Alumni Giving Rate 5
Explanation of Measures
Graduation and Retention Rates (35%): This measure assesses the percentage of students who complete their degree programs and the rate at which students return for their second year.
Undergraduate Academic Reputation (20%): This is based on surveys of academic peers, where university administrators rate the academic quality of other institutions.
Faculty Resources (20%): This includes metrics such as faculty salaries, the ratio of full-time faculty to students, and the number of faculty with advanced degrees.
Student Selectivity (10%): This factor considers the admissions process, including standardized test scores and high school GPA of admitted students.
Financial Resources (10%): This measures the financial support available per student, which can impact the quality of education.
Alumni Giving Rate (5%): This reflects the percentage of alumni who donate to the institution, indicating alumni satisfaction and engagement.
These measures are designed to provide a comprehensive view of a university's performance and quality, although the methodology has faced criticism for its reliance on subjective factors like reputation."
Posted on 9/21/26 at 10:06 pm to SECretariat
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just a feeling from interacting with current students
LSU's academic reputation is not good, but it never really has been out of individual majors (I think chem/petro engineering, Internal Audit, etc.) At least in IA, it meant that the Big 4 would always stop at LSU for recruiting events, but they did at Auburn, Georgia, and others too.
How it's gotten worse is a feat of progressive engineering is astounding. But, at the same time, the USNWR rankings have generally been assailed for decades by anyone paying attention. Grokipedia
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Central to the discourse are methodological flaws, including heavy reliance on subjective reputation surveys that perpetuate incumbency advantages for wealthy, established universities while undervaluing metrics for instructional effectiveness, which rankings rarely measure directly due to data limitations.[1] Empirical reviews reveal arbitrary weighting of factors (e.g., U.S. News assigning up to 20% to peer assessments) and insufficient transparency in data sourcing, leading to non-reproducible results and vulnerability to gaming, as evidenced by institutional strategies to report favorable alumni giving rates or faculty credentials.[1][3] Critics further contend that rankings exacerbate inequality by favoring resource-rich private institutions over public ones serving diverse populations, with weak correlations to graduate employment or value-added outcomes; for instance, analyses show top-ranked schools often excel in inputs like admissions rigor but not in causal impacts on student achievement.[2][1
Posted on 9/21/26 at 10:14 pm to DrrTiger
That's like FBS teams in the 75th to 199th range. Does the difference really matter?
In huge general universities an individual can go and learn something or they can go and goof off.
In huge general universities an individual can go and learn something or they can go and goof off.
Posted on 9/21/26 at 10:42 pm to DrrTiger
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Now second to last in the SEC, only in front of Mississippi State.
Ouch
Posted on 9/21/26 at 10:56 pm to DrrTiger
When Nakeesha and Bumqueesha are students and in all the school literature/brochures yea its going downhill…bad
Posted on 9/21/26 at 11:05 pm to PGAOLDBAWNevahBroke
Boy what a coincidence dropping down after getting rid of a liberal president and AD.A bunch of intellectually corrupt people BSing their way through life.
Posted on 9/21/26 at 11:16 pm to Dr Rosenrosen
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It generates loads of publicity
So does football as John Lombardi realized at UF. He realized they got more publicity from Gator football than they could ever get through marketing.
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