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Posted on 12/3/17 at 11:39 pm to
Posted by vidtiger23
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 12/3/17 at 11:39 pm to
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That didn't used to be the case, but it is now. Only 1/3 of statics students used to pass it on the first try. Only 1/2 of the students in a given statics class would pass period. They changed the way the class was taught and tested around 2011 in order to not weed out nearly as many students. It's not the gate-keeper it once was.

I’ve actually heard this statistic before. It just blows my mind how they could change the class so much. I took it after 2011, but the information itself just didn’t seem bad enough to warrant that much failing no matter how it was taught. It really didn’t seem that bad was definitely not my hardest class.
Posted by ElRoos
Member since Nov 2017
7227 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 12:18 am to
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Statics


Awful class. My statics professor, who was supposed to be the best there ever was at LSU, got in a moped accident and stopped teaching thereafter. Ended up getting some iranian dude who could not speak a lick of English. He just pointed to the board and worked out problems. Surprisngly (or maybe not so much), he was a hell of a lot better than Suresh Moorthy in Strengths. That fricker can SAFD 100x and then some.

Luckily I passed Statics with the lowest C possible. Glad I never had to retake that shite. Hated those few Civil Engineering classes I had to take. That whole department seems like it has the worst professors.
Posted by Vanilla Ice
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Member since Apr 2013
5455 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 1:47 am to
Gonthier,

If you’re reading this, GO frick YOURSELF
Posted by baseballmind1212
Missouri City
Member since Feb 2011
3265 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 4:53 am to
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What is the hardest course of the curriculum? Trying to decide which semester is best to take extra hours.


The best semester to take extra hours is what ever semester you have a class with both Kirby and Pecquet.

Both of those guys will spot you points multiple times and always give extra credit.

The hardest thing about Pecquet's safety course is actually going to class.

The hardest thing about Kirby's two structures courses are finding the reading quizzes for the respective books you have to read in each class.


I took a full 12 hour course load two summers in a row while working and it was still a joke.

That being said, CM degree + 5-7 years experience after pretty much = guaranteed 85k+/yr job.
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 5:03 am to
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Only 1/3 of statics students used to pass it on the first try. Only 1/2 of the students in a given statics class would pass period. 


bullshite.

I took it probably in 04-05. The class is difficult from the perspective that there is not a lot of time when taking the exam, homework took time, and it's one of the first engineering classes. But it was not that hard. It's freaking algebra and trig with the tiniest bit of calc that you can get around by memorizing formulas. The tests were literally identical to examples given as homework. And when they gave us one that wasn't (used a trig identity we should all have known, but never had a homework that used it), they let us retake the exam.

But to say the class failed 2/3 of the students is laughable. I don't know a single person who failed. Thermo, Fluids.....yeah, tons failed. Statics was enough to make people say "this isnt going to be easy", but that's about it.
Posted by StinkBait72
Member since Nov 2011
2057 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 6:15 am to
The curriculum itself wasn't hard, but if you didn't do the 15-20hrs of homework a week you didn't stand a chance come test time. The amount of test time and number of problems we're specifically geared for those who actually spent time practicing the problems.
This post was edited on 12/4/17 at 8:01 am
Posted by crazyLSUstudent
391 miles away from Tiger Stadium
Member since Mar 2012
5531 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 6:58 am to
Took it in 15'. Still the same way. Time is the biggest obstacle for the test. The SI sessions made the class much easier. Made it out with a B
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 7:13 am to
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The curriculum itswlf wasn't hard, but if you didn't do the 15-20hrs of homework a week you didn't stand a chance come test time. The amount of test time and number of problems we're specifically geared for those who actually spent time practicing the problems


This is true, although if you had a good understanding of trig and were smart, it is possible to wing it come exam day, but that would take some brains. Doing the homework let you immediately know what steps were needed and with the time given, you needed that advantage. But overall it wasn't that hard. There was enough homework solutions floating around that it didn't take 20 hours a week.

And most certainly 2/3rds of the class did not fail. Now Thermodynamics.....some sections probably had that many drop or fail, but not statics.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
84306 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:00 am to
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CM requires the calc based physics?


Also requires MATH 1550 (Calc 1)



CM does need MATH 1550, but it has never needed MATH 1552 or either of the Calculus based PHYS classes. The PHYS classes yall take are the non-calculus based.
Posted by djangochained
Gardere
Member since Jul 2013
19054 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:17 am to
Was that ms. Jacobs
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
29434 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:23 am to
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That being said, CM degree + 5-7 years experience after pretty much = guaranteed 85k+/yr job.

Everyone hating on the degree and you can make a very nice living with it. It’s truly a degree that’s what you make of it. I’ve done pretty well, even compared to some of my engineer friends.
Posted by BLIZZAKE7
BRLA
Member since Apr 2005
6188 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:31 am to
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CM does need MATH 1550, but it has never needed MATH 1552 or either of the Calculus based PHYS classes. The PHYS classes yall take are the non-calculus based.


that's correct. PHYS 2000 and 2002 are for CM.
Posted by Ssubba
Member since Oct 2014
6626 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:40 am to
Does LSU not use the Hibbler textbook? Hibbler makes some of the best textbooks I've ever read. Just do the problems and you'll be fine.

Graduating Civil from Alabama in May. Once you're past your Math and you understand Statics there really isn't any difficult classes.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31444 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:44 am to
first time i took statics, i was like wtf. Second time I couldnt understand why i thought it was hard in the first place. difference was I did all of the homework plus some the second time.

with fluids I was thought the first test was stupid hard, made a 30. After that, I buckled down and did all the practice problems and didn't make below a 94 on any test after that.

Point is, if you put in the time, you will be fine.

now thermo...frick that shite, its just plain fricking hard.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
29434 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:48 am to
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now thermo...frick that shite, its just plain fricking hard.

My thermo professor told us
“The first time you take thermo you don’t understand it. The second time you take thermo you don’t understand it. The third time, you’re so used to it that it doesn’t matter anymore.”
Posted by SouthboundTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2014
1071 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:48 am to
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The best semester to take extra hours is what ever semester you have a class with both Kirby and Pecquet.


This^^ x1000

Either of those two guys will let you get away with murder. I can remember groupme going off like crazy during Kirby's tests. Every final in Kirby's class was a group final. I'm sure some people reading this were in there.

Posted by boxcarbarney
Above all things, be a man
Member since Jul 2007
22792 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 10:05 am to
I'm getting the sense that Gonthier is not likeable.
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 10:42 am to
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I'm getting the sense that Gonthier is not likeable.


Probably the best teacher I ever had. He really got into it and worked hard to make you understand. When the whole class seemed behind, he didn't just hold extra office hours, he would teach extra hours of the class at night. I wish I had him for more stuff. At least as the teacher.

As a "test giver/grader" he was brutal. Some of the hardest exams I've taken, and certainly the most consistent in terms of difficultly.
Posted by CFDoc
Member since Jan 2013
2097 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 12:28 pm to
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I'm getting the sense that Gonthier is not likeable.



I owe a good portion of my doctorate in computational fluids that man.

He will push you as a student much further than any other teacher I've had. He also has no time for less than your best and gives zero fricks when it comes test time.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57472 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 12:28 pm to
Jacobs was never the best professor ever. Abu Al Rub was the best teacher LSU had, and they ran him off to A&M.

It is Dr. Abu Al Rub..... Not Dr. Abu.... Not Dr. Al Rub.....Dr. Abu Al Rub.
This post was edited on 12/4/17 at 12:31 pm
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