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Louisiana’s $2-Billion Gamble: Flood the Land to Save the Coast

Posted on 2/22/22 at 8:17 am
Posted by goofball
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Posted on 2/22/22 at 8:17 am
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Louisiana’s $2-Billion Gamble: Flood the Land to Save the Coast

A new engineering project would bring much needed land to eroding marshes but at a huge cost to the fishing industry

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BATON ROUGE, La.—After Hurricane Ida slammed into the Louisiana coast in August 2021, it took more than 100 lives and cost billions of dollars in damage. To some here, the storm was just one more justification for a desperate measure to preserve the coast by intentionally flooding parts of the state.

“I don't mean to be alarmist about it, but anybody who’s spent any time along our coast, whether you’re fishing, hunting or working, you’ve seen the changes to our coast. We know it's going away,” says Bren Haase, executive director of the state’s Coastal Protection and Restoration Authority (CPRA). “I don't think we can be successful without using the tools and the resources in the Mississippi River to help restore our coast.”

On average, between 1985 and 2010, Louisiana lost about a football field of coastline per hour, and the rate has not slowed. Stronger storms each year and sustained sea-level rise continue to eat away at its coast. Few have felt these effects more than the coastal communities. Hurricane Ida forced most of the remaining members the Biloxi-Chitimacha-Choctaw tribe to abandon their homes on Isle de Jean Charles.




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The state is now proposing a $2-billion plan, called the Mid-Barataria Sediment Diversion project, that would allow the river to flood the Mid-Barataria basin at certain times throughout the year. These controlled floods could, over 50 years, regrow up to 36 square miles of land in the Barataria basin, according to Haase.


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A stone’s throw from the actual river in Baton Rouge, researchers at the Louisiana State University (LSU) Center for River Studies clamber over a 10,000-square-foot model of the real thing. They pump liquid and sandlike particles into molded channels and tributaries to test water flow. Sensors measure how fast sediment passes along the river, just like the real water gauges floating in the Mississippi.





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But not everyone is happy with this flood plan. Fishers in the area oppose the proposal because the diversion will bring freshwater into the saltwater and brackish basin, drastically reducing its salinity. They believe that key fishery species, such as brown shrimp and oysters, would die or move farther out into saltwater estuaries.

“We know we need land,” says George Ricks, a charter boat captain and founder of the Save Louisiana Coalition, a nonprofit fighting the development of the diversion. “But this is going to destroy our commercial fishing and recreational fishing communities—it’s going to bring great hardship.”


Full article at the link. Worth the read if you live in south Louisiana. Fair warning that it's a longer article.

LSU and a lot of researchers are trying to rebuild Louisiana's coastline the way that The Netherlands rebuilt a lot of their coast (which took centuries) into very productive agricultural land and wetlands.
This post was edited on 2/22/22 at 8:20 am
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 2/22/22 at 8:20 am to
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move farther out into saltwater estuaries.
Sorry
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 2/22/22 at 8:21 am to
Oyster prices bout to skyrocket baw
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
56461 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 8:23 am to
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Looks like a lot of money wasted.
Posted by sawtooth
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2017
3588 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 8:23 am to
It will work if they can get the heavier particles on the bottom of the river to divert as well. Thanks to damns and the levees constructed the Mississippi does not carry the same amount of suspended solids as it once did. However…… they need to try something. It took thousands of years to build the land we see today. It would be nice to at least slow down the loss although I don’t think they can ever reverse it.
This post was edited on 2/22/22 at 8:24 am
Posted by WavinWilly
Wavin Away in Sharlo
Member since Oct 2010
9052 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 8:24 am to
I was in a class at LSU in 2007 where the professor was talking about this exact thing and trying to get it implemented. Just go ahead and do it already.

ETA: would also be curious if this worked and they took it even further what would happen to the water quality at places like orange beach. Wonder if it would get more like Destin or remain largely unchanged.
This post was edited on 2/22/22 at 8:28 am
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 8:28 am to
They are. They have a CMAR contract in place

Barataria should go to construction 2023
Breton should go to construction 2024
This post was edited on 2/22/22 at 8:29 am
Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
17714 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 8:28 am to
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Looks like a lot of money wasted.



There are a few research endevours that LSU has gotten right. This is one of them

1. LiGO
2. Water Campus Partnership
3. Hurricane Predictive impact
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
14811 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 8:28 am to
until the levees were built, the river did this naturally every time the Mississippi River flooded....
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 2/22/22 at 8:29 am to
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They are. They have a CMAR contract in place



Has this been proven in any other region of the world? I'm wondering how far out on the leading edge this project finds itself.
Posted by mthorn2
Planet Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
1585 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 8:30 am to
If Corps wouldn't have levee'd the river after 1927 flood this would have happened naturally anyway. Manmade issue. Manmade solution. Just this way people have someone to blame and lay hate towards.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 8:31 am to
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and cost billions of dollars in damage


Do publications proofread anymore?

It's and caused billions of dollars in damage.
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17353 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 8:32 am to
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I was in a class at LSU in 2007 where the professor was talking about this exact thing and trying to get it implemented. Just go ahead and do it already.



It takes $ billions and a lot of political will. And you can see even from this article that there's major pushback from the fishing industry.

You divert the sediment one way and you ruin someone's livelihood. Do it another way and ruin someone else's. So the process has enemies, even from the businesses that stand to gain from coastal protection.

The good thing is that LSU is positioned to be one of the world leaders in this area of research. Things finally appear to be happening as far as funding goes, and we are seeing positive results in some areas even if we get trounced every time a hurricane blows through.
Posted by 007mag
Death Valley, Sec. 408
Member since Dec 2011
3925 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 8:33 am to
Louisiana’s $2-Billion Gamble: To rebuild private oil company marsh.


FIFY
Posted by Aforem7
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
1097 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 8:34 am to
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Looks like a lot of money wasted.

As a practicing coastal engineer who has used this facility, I can promise you this is not a waste of money. LSU is one of the leading schools for coastal research and this facility is a huge asset
Posted by keks tadpole
Yellow Leaf Creek
Member since Feb 2017
8688 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 8:34 am to
a billion in cost, a billion in kick-backs
Posted by BorrisMart
La
Member since Jul 2020
9026 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 8:36 am to
Just looking at all that for 40 miles of land optimistically in 50 years in incredible. Look how small the land is compared to the rest of the map. Incredible what is happening to the coast.

ETA: I've always read the map doesn't really portray what the state looks like anymore. Does anyone have a link to what it actually looks like now from a map perspective? Or oiriginally? Or is what we see on the map the original land formation?
This post was edited on 2/22/22 at 8:38 am
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
12703 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 8:37 am to
This is not really a gamble, it is just releasing the genie that was in the bottle.

The real rub is with commercial fishermen who have grown too accustomed to areas that were fresh water a hundred years ago and became salty after levees were built and land eroded.

We need more diversions like this to freshen up the basin. But we need to find a delicate balance where it doesn’t cost 2 billion dollars. We need projects that will take natural elevations and existing canals or bayous to distribute water. Also, no pumps maybe a low head levee to allow water to spill into the basin. And create its own network of channels.
This post was edited on 2/22/22 at 8:39 am
Posted by Bigfishchoupique
Member since Jul 2017
9607 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 8:38 am to
The coast will never be saved. You can’t rebuild with diversions what has been lost. Anyone that understand a Geologic time line can see this.

We are on a Deltaic Flood Plain that is sinking rapidly.

We aren’t supposed to be living here.
This post was edited on 2/22/22 at 8:43 am
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26608 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 8:40 am to
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1. LiGO
2. Water Campus Partnership
3. Hurricane Predictive impact


I agree especially as it relates to hurricanes and coastal research. LSU was trying to focus on coastal research restoration for decades. Coastal restoration and delta management is incredibly important for Louisiana. Hopefully that little campus north of LSU avoids being a generic office park and remains focused on its original mission, even if it takes much longer to develop.

I admit that I don't know very much about LiGO. I'm pretty close to the Fermilab campus outside Chicago. I assume LiGO is doing similar work as Fermilab?
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