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re: Louisiana Scaffold Builder wins $411 million Verdict. Largest in Louisiana History.

Posted on 3/5/25 at 1:44 pm to
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
13279 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 1:44 pm to
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Lololololololol

In terms of the law on w/c exclusivity and the difference between compensatory and punitive damages? Doubtful.

Also, FYI, those plaintiff's attorneys that know so much only asked for $170 million.

They did too good of a job inflaming the jury.


So no one in the courtroom was as knowledgeable as those who weren't. I see.
Posted by theCrusher
Slidell
Member since Nov 2007
1570 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 1:44 pm to
It's the people on the juries who give stupid awards not the attorneys. All they do is lay out a case for negligence and compensation.

Posted by spslayto
Member since Feb 2004
21612 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 1:47 pm to
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All they do is lay out a case for negligence and compensation.


But negligence isn't the standard here. It has to be intentional.
Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
12061 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 2:13 pm to
This seems like just an ordinary accident due to carelessness or a simple human error. This hardly amounts to an intentional tort and the scaffold company certainly didn't want this to happen.

More likely than not the plaintiff was not an employee of the scaffolding company,, nor was he a statutory employee by contractual reason. Otherwise his sole remedy would be workers compensation.

If the plaintiff was not an employee of the scaffold company its possible their boast of no lost time accidents may have been accurate.
This post was edited on 3/5/25 at 3:17 pm
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28207 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 2:30 pm to
The only time (in 23 years) I got out of comp for employee on employee was a gross negligence ruling.

Went to 2nd Circuit, upheld. Writ denied. 1998, maybe 99.

3rd party negligence the preferred way to travel out of comp.
This post was edited on 3/5/25 at 3:00 pm
Posted by TheFranchise
The Stick
Member since Feb 2005
6304 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 5:37 pm to
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Anyone who celebrates this verdict has zero room to bitch about the cost of insurance.


You’ll have to explain that to me.

Had Brock and its insurer done the right thing and paid the valid claim when due, this verdict wouldn’t have happened. The insurance company decided instead to fight the valid claim, spent untold $$$ on defense costs, got what was coming to them, and then they want to blame plaintiff’s attorneys for high insurance premiums?

How’s that “tort reform” from 2020 and 2024 working out for your insurance premiums? Has it helped? Is that because the problem isn’t due to plaintiffs or plaintiffs attorneys, so “tort reform” doesn’t fix the out of control premiums? Is it because the real problems are the out of control insurers charging out of control premiums, then fighting tooth and nail against valid claims rather than doing what is right?

There is zero evidence that high premiums are triggered by injured people making claims. “Tort reform” will not make your premiums go down.
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
27130 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 6:13 pm to
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erecting scaffolding is incredible dangerous
Except in Asian where they use bamboo for scaffold and just replace a worker that "fails to make it to the end of the day".

Posted by Dandaman
Louisiana
Member since May 2017
797 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 6:41 pm to
Judge misunderstood the law or was crooked. Period.

We don’t need tort reform, we need educated judges.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30025 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 6:57 pm to
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Judge misunderstood the law or was crooked. Period.

We don’t need tort reform, we need educated judges.


Do you have the case cites handy where LA deals with "substantially certain" vis-a-vis comp claims? In most jurisdictions (though LA is decidedly not most jurisdictions) the determination of bars like substantially certain is a jury question. This is the end run used in the Geismer explosion case (Williams Olefin?).
Posted by Duckhammer_77
TD Platinum member
Member since Nov 2016
3011 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 7:11 pm to
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the most fun times I’ve had trying a case.

This is sad case.

Should tell you everything you need to know about LA trial attorneys
Posted by duckblind56
South of Ellick
Member since Sep 2023
4426 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 7:32 pm to
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quote:
What firm?

Arnold and Itkin



quote:

Personal Injury Cases in Louisiana
Over $20 Billion Won. Call (888) 493-1629 for a Free Consultation.


Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
120068 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 7:42 pm to
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It's the people on the juries who give stupid awards not the attorneys.


You don't think attorneys have an impact on what a jury decides? I see Tony Clayton was on this case. I know some people who have serve on murder cases where TC is the DA.

The chances of the accused being found guilty in a murder trial is, based on what i've heard people say and what I just googled.. About 95%. With TC as the DA its probably about 99%. Someone told me that when they served on a jury, when TC was addressing the jury when he gave his opening, he called the dude the grime reaper. He put that in the juries minds early on. It took 3 days and it took 20 mins for the jury to decide the person was guilty.

The accused did no favors to himself by discussing what he did in text messages, but if you need one of the best attorneys in South Louisiana... You hire Tony Clayton.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
102836 posts including my alters
Member since Jun 2005
45858 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 7:51 pm to
Anyone checked the google search stats for "Jose Valdivia sister"?
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
47672 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 7:58 pm to
frick laywers. They're a major reason everything is so expensive now.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
112446 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 8:09 pm to
quote:

Personal Injury Cases in Louisiana
Over $20 Billion Won. Call (888) 493-1629 for a Free Consultation


Won.

What was the ultimate award after post-verdict relief/appeals?

How much was actually recovered?
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
112446 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 8:11 pm to
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Had Brock and its insurer done the right thing and paid the valid claim when due, this verdict wouldn’t have happened.


Bwahahahahahaha
Posted by Dandaman
Louisiana
Member since May 2017
797 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 8:44 pm to
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Do you have the case cites handy where LA deals with "substantially certain" vis-a-vis comp claims? In most jurisdictions (though LA is decidedly not most jurisdictions) the determination of bars like substantially certain is a jury question. This is the end run used in the Geismer explosion case (Williams Olefin?).


Reeves is the law. It should rarely be a jury question due to summary judgment standards, but theoretically could be a question on the verdict form. Of course, the question should be “was the act intentional?” not some misleading question based on case law explaining how one can prove intent.
Posted by duckblind56
South of Ellick
Member since Sep 2023
4426 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 9:07 pm to
NONE of the slimers report that number.
Posted by Gusoline
Jacksonville, NC
Member since Dec 2013
10487 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 10:09 pm to
Snd after lawyer fees guy prob got $12.
Posted by geauxpurple
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2014
16520 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 10:26 pm to
This will get appealed and will probably get settled at a reduced amount.
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