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re: Louisiana Leading - Florida bill to ban marrying first cousins fails to pass
Posted on 3/17/26 at 2:59 pm to Tchefuncte Tiger
Posted on 3/17/26 at 2:59 pm to Tchefuncte Tiger
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Does this mean all degrees of first cousins? Can you marry your first cousin, once removed, in Louisiana?
No. They would still fall in the line of Collaterals within the 4th degree (first cousins)
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Art. 90. Impediments of relationship
A. The following persons may not contract marriage with each other:
(1) Ascendants and descendants.
(2) Collaterals within the fourth degree, whether of the whole or of the half blood.
B. The impediment exists whether the persons are related by consanguinity or by adoption. Nevertheless, persons related by adoption, though not by blood, in the collateral line within the fourth degree may marry each other if they obtain judicial authorization in writing to do so.
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Posted on 3/17/26 at 3:00 pm to BestBanker
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Cannot marry 1st cousin anymore. Now, 2nd?
I've never understood the 2nd and 3rd cousin thing.
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A second cousin is someone who shares the same great-grandparents as you, but not the same grandparents. They are the children of your parents' first cousins. While first cousins share grandparents, second cousins share great-grandparents, typically making them part of the same generation.
Wut in da fuggin Livn'ston p'rish is all dis stuff?
Posted on 3/17/26 at 3:02 pm to Shexter
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I've never understood the 2nd and 3rd cousin thing. Can someone break down the exact definition?
I am interested in genealogy so I know this pretty well. Your 2nd cousin and you share a great grandparent, meaning one of your grandparents and their grandparent are siblings, in turn your parent and their parent are 1st cousins.
3rd cousin means you share a great great grandparent. Your great grandparent and theirs are siblings, in turn your grandparent and theirs are 1st cousins, your parent and theirs are 2nd cousins.
So on and so forth.
Posted on 3/17/26 at 3:11 pm to Shexter
...but she's so purdy!
Posted on 3/17/26 at 3:14 pm to Shexter
I guess if you have to make a law banning it, it has really become a problem that you can't ignore.
Posted on 3/17/26 at 3:19 pm to LegendInMyMind
Why go down the street when you can go down the hall.
Posted on 3/17/26 at 3:21 pm to BigBinBR
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B. The impediment exists whether the persons are related by consanguinity or by adoption. Nevertheless, persons related by adoption, though not by blood, in the collateral line within the fourth degree may marry each other if they obtain judicial authorization in writing to do so.
So apparently your sister by adoption is still a candidate, with judicial authorization. Hmm, never a Hallmark movie though.
This post was edited on 3/17/26 at 3:23 pm
Posted on 3/17/26 at 3:35 pm to PsychTiger
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In Alabama the law requires you marry your first cousin.
Posted on 3/17/26 at 3:44 pm to Shexter
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. While first cousins share grandparents, second cousins share great-grandparents, typically making them part of the same generation.
This is the key. Even the chart seems complicated, although it is commonly used.
The trick is to find a common set of "same" level ancestors if you have them. If you do, above parents (because you're siblings then, not cousins), you're "that" ordinal cousin (First, Second, etc.) If you can't, you find the closest and adjust off that, however many "removed".
Abe and Anne have Bobby and Brenda
Bobby and Brenda are siblings
Bobby's boy Carl and Brenda's girl Cassie are First Cousins (share Abe and Anne as grandparents - there is no "removed" up from first cousin because those are uncles/aunts, great uncles/great aunts, etc.) Brenda is Carl's aunt. Bobby is Cassie's uncle.
Carl's boy Doug and Cassie's girl Denise are Second Cousins (share Abe and Anne as great grandparents.) Carl is Denise's first cousin once removed. Cassie is Doug's first cousin once removed.
Etc.
This post was edited on 3/17/26 at 3:47 pm
Posted on 3/17/26 at 3:55 pm to Shexter
Got Grok to look into this and it came back with:
But GeauxTigers123 is mostly right, the opponents will argue it discriminates against immigrants who enjoy marrying their cousins.
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The bill (HB 733, a Department of Health package) died for procedural reasons, not because of opposition to banning first-cousin marriage itself.
It was not a standalone measure. Rep. Dean Black added the cousin-marriage prohibition (effective July 1, 2026) as an amendment to a much broader DOH bill that also covered things like dental student loans, medical marijuana treatment center rules, a new neurofibromatosis grant program, autism training, and other health policies. The House passed its version 84-24, and the Senate passed a substitute version unanimously (37-0). But on the final days of the 2026 legislative session, disagreements over those other sections created gridlock—no consensus could be reached on the full package before the clock ran out, so the entire bill died.
Lawmakers on both sides explicitly had “no difference” on the consanguineous-marriage part. The sponsor has already said he’ll bring it back next year, possibly as a clean standalone bill. In short, the ban didn’t fail on its merits; it was collateral damage from unrelated fights inside a big omnibus bill.
But GeauxTigers123 is mostly right, the opponents will argue it discriminates against immigrants who enjoy marrying their cousins.
Posted on 3/17/26 at 5:14 pm to Wayne Campbell
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What’s the argument to NOT ban first cousin marriage?
Freedom?
Why do you need the government to bless your incest?
Posted on 3/17/26 at 5:53 pm to Shexter
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The bill stated that a man may not marry any woman to whom he is related by lineal consanguinity, or his sister, aunt, or niece.
A woman can not marry a man with whom she is related to by lineal consanguinity, her brother, uncle, or nephew.
Does the “lineal” not limit “consanguinity” to direct lines of Ascendants and descendants? That’s why the additions of sister/brother, aunt/uncle, and niece/nephew have to be added.
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Lineal consanguinity is the blood relationship among persons where one is a direct descendant or ascendant of the other. It is the relation in a direct line, such as between a father, son, and grandson.
Lineal consanguinity can either be downward in a direct descending line – as in son, grandson, and great grandson or be upward in a direct ascending line – as in son, father, and grandfather.
If so where is first counsins specifically included in the bill?
Also, outside of any existing law the wording would then also seems to allow brothers to marry brothers and sisters to marry sisters. Same with uncles/nephews, aunt/nieces, and other same sex family members. Even if they have to justify using marriage equality that shite needs to be outlawed as well regardless of homosexuals inability to naturally (or normally) have children together.
This post was edited on 3/17/26 at 5:56 pm
Posted on 3/17/26 at 5:54 pm to Shexter
I always thought this was more about states not wanting to force people to pay for the blood tests so they can skip that and get married sooner.
Posted on 3/17/26 at 6:07 pm to Shexter
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TAMPA, Fla. (WFLA)— The Florida bill to ban marrying a first cousin failed to pass in the Florida Senate.
Legislatures failed to pass HB-733, which stated that after July 1, 2026, incestuous marriage would not be recognized for any purpose in the state of Florida.
The bill stated that a man may not marry any woman to whom he is related by lineal consanguinity, or his sister, aunt, or niece.
A woman can not marry a man with whom she is related to by lineal consanguinity, her brother, uncle, or nephew.
They should also clarify the lines to prevent same sex 1st cousin marriages too.
A man or woman may not marry any woman or man to whom he or she is related by lineal consanguinity, or a sister, aunt, or niece.
A woman or man can not marry a man or woman with whom she or he is related to by lineal consanguinity, a brother, uncle, or nephew.
Posted on 3/17/26 at 7:49 pm to BigBinBR
That’s what I thought.
Posted on 3/17/26 at 8:08 pm to Shexter
Adding to the other info, a 1st cousin once removed is your parent’s first cousin. That person’s kids are usually your 2nd cousin.
Posted on 3/17/26 at 10:33 pm to Shexter
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a man may not marry any woman to whom he is related by lineal consanguinity, or his sister, aunt, or niece.
A woman can not marry a man with whom she is related to by lineal consanguinity, her brother, uncle, or nephew.
But what if she is really hot?
Asking for a friend.
Posted on 3/17/26 at 10:37 pm to zippyputt
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Adding to the other info, a 1st cousin once removed is your parent’s first cousin. That person’s kids are usually your 2nd cousin
On the flip side, your 1st cousins child is your 1st cousin once removed as well.
Posted on 3/17/26 at 10:39 pm to Shexter
I have always referred to my cousins children as second cousins. Learn something new everyday.
Posted on 3/18/26 at 8:18 am to StanSmith
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I have always referred to my cousins children as second cousins
If you have kids, your kids and your 1st cousins kids are second cousins.
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