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re: Louisiana Citizens proposes 63 percent homeowners insurance rate hike for 2023

Posted on 9/13/22 at 4:20 pm to
Posted by Caraway Rye
Member since Oct 2021
5108 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 4:20 pm to
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What other option does the Insurer of last resort have to people knowledgeable and willingly living in a hurricane prone area?



They dont

This is why not having a tax base to rely on is absolutely relevant
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11789 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 4:28 pm to
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Really, we have high premiums because there isn’t enough competition? There’s just loads of profit to be made by an enterprising new insurance company, all they have to do is undercut these established companies? Current premiums have nothing to do with the current high cost of repairs or replacement of homes?


That really doesn’t have anything to do with the cost, it’s the litigation against the insurance companies and Cat losses that have caused all the companies to leave. People don’t read the contracts and get mad about % deductibles and decide to use public adjusters and attorneys. A very small % of the payouts end up going to claimants, they go straight into attorneys pockets.
Posted by Stiles
Member since Sep 2017
3458 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 4:47 pm to
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that doesn’t know any better.

That’s a lot of Louisiana educated people. And a big part of the problem.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
34210 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 4:51 pm to
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A live look at LA Dept of Insurance-


I can’t believe Jim’s friends at State Farm aren’t helping us out
This post was edited on 9/13/22 at 6:45 pm
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
179055 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 4:54 pm to
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Taxpayers are getting squeezed in a tax in disguise


Come again. It’s so good for La Citizens that they are raising rates and will be enticing companies to take the policy holders away. Makes no sense
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
13797 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 6:03 pm to
Many factors at play here, but it isn’t helping that the plaintiff trial bar essentially owns state government.
Posted by Abstract Queso Dip
Member since Mar 2021
5878 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 6:30 pm to
63 percent of zero is zero.

-Lousianan liberal living in his parent's basement.
This post was edited on 9/13/22 at 6:31 pm
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60938 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 6:32 pm to
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Damn. 63% inflation is even worse than beef and chicken.


About the same honestly
Posted by FOBW
N.O.
Member since Sep 2016
471 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 6:45 pm to
After Katrina I saw a (60 minutes maybe) report that stated that the big insurers have set up reinsurance businesses in the Bahamas and can basically set there own rates and reserves. And that these insurers then used the reinsurance rates to force premium increases stateside.

Can anyone comment on the accuracy of that report?
Posted by Eightballjacket
Member since Jan 2016
8025 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 6:47 pm to
When will the Louisiana Citizens insurance assessment expire?
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
25860 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 6:48 pm to
I think 2026
Posted by GEAUXT
Member since Nov 2007
30520 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 7:02 pm to
I was going to have LA Citizens when my last insurer folded. However, the forced wind and hail coverage from my mortgage company was actually substantially cheaper. I'm sure it's a shitty policy but I don't really care
Posted by QuietTiger
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2003
26256 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 7:08 pm to
That could make or break some camps down our way.
Posted by biscuitsngravy
Tejas, north America
Member since Jan 2011
3893 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 8:03 pm to
Respect....
Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
Member since Apr 2016
7063 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 9:10 pm to
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the forced wind and hail coverage from my mortgage company was actually substantially cheaper. I'm sure it's a shitty policy but I don't really care


Those don’t cover your liability, personal property, or any loss of use.
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
25751 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 9:13 pm to
Need to send another 100 Billion to Ukraine
This post was edited on 9/13/22 at 9:14 pm
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
22363 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 9:13 pm to
frick all that
Posted by gizmothepug
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2015
8665 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 9:18 pm to
If you can make money somewhere else and children aren’t a concern, why would anyone still be here? Family is important, until money and lifestyle makes it less important.
Posted by GEAUXT
Member since Nov 2007
30520 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 9:20 pm to
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Those don’t cover your liability, personal property, or any loss of use.


I have a separate policy for that. There was no agency that would write a new policy for both. It's outrageous. I've never even made a claim.
Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
Member since Apr 2016
7063 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 9:21 pm to
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So they bought $55 million of reinsurance for $32 million in 2021. Then bought $1.2 billion of reinsurance for $120 million a year later? Reinsurance being 60 cents on the dollar in 2021 but only 10 cents on the dollar in 2022? Seems like reinsurance would be more expensive in 2022 than 2021. Was the $55 million for 2021 missing a zero and supposed to be $550 million?


It’s semi-complicated, but I’ll try and break it down in a quick summary:

Think of “re-insurance” as a tower, made of $5mil stacks, with the lowest number ($5mil) at the bottom.

Etc (up to $1 bil or whatever)
$20 mil
$15 mil
$10 mil
$5 mil

The first $5mil stack costs more, as it’s likely to pay out. The higher up you go ($10 mil, $15 mil, etc) with each “stack”, the cheaper the stack gets, as you as less likely to have to pay out with each “stack”.

The reinsurance is based on a number of factors, including data with cat models, avg year of home, avg yr of roof, roof shape, and all sorts of other bullshite, including obv each carriers capital and profitability and loss ratios over “x” number of years.

The reinsurance market, for the first time in SEVERAL years, had a contraction in capital, from like $23bil to $21bil, which is roughly 10%, so obv rates increased due to that factor alone.

An important date in the reinsurance market is approaching (Sept 30). We all know it’s been a quiet season, and that bodes well for everyone involved, from carriers to commissioners to clients. The only ppl unhappy with that news are roofers and attorneys. It may take a year or two, but rates will get back to normal I sincerely and expectantly hope.
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