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re: Looks like we have a new case of stolen valor

Posted on 1/23/21 at 12:44 pm to
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 1/23/21 at 12:44 pm to
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Rather, Cotton attended the Ranger School, a two-month-long, small-unit tactical infantry course that literally anyone in the military is eligible attend.


Not even close to being true.

He earned his tab and is Ranger qualified.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
71796 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 12:53 pm to
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It's really going to blow the minds of the people at Salon when they find out that you can serve in a Ranger battalion without previously going to Ranger school


Yeah. This isn't quite the gotcha the writer thinks it is.



Yeah. They’re really stretching with this one. The guy graduated from Ranger School. And he served as an Infantry Platoon Leader in combat. The story is bullshite “gotcha” politics. Sadly most civilians don’t know thr difference.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Member since Dec 2011
71796 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 12:54 pm to
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Rather, Cotton attended the Ranger School, a two-month-long, small-unit tactical infantry course that literally anyone in the military is eligible attend.



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Not even close to being true.

He earned his tab and is Ranger qualified.


Exactly. Attending Ranger school and completing Ranger School are two vastly different things.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 1/23/21 at 12:57 pm to
Most civilians wouldn’t know that Ranger School is up there with BUDS, Selection Course and IOC. It is a grueling 2 month school that focuses on squad level tactics and usually has a very high attrition rate. Completing the course and earning the tab is viewed favorably by all combat arms across the different services.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Member since Dec 2011
71796 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 12:58 pm to
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Soldiers who complete the course earn the right to wear the Ranger tab — a small arch that reads "Ranger"


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Also- Am I reading too much into it or does it sort of sound like the writer is belittling the tab a bit?


Betcha that writer wouldn’t make is two hours in Ranger School.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Member since Dec 2011
71796 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 1:02 pm to
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Tom Cotton is a decades-long career Congress ghoul waiting to happen.

Now we just know he's a lying cuck too.



What did he lie about? He graduated Ranger School making him Ranger qualified and given the right to wear the Ranger tab. He is a Ranger. Period.
Posted by L1C4
The Ville
Member since Aug 2017
16105 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 2:23 pm to
This sounds a bit like the story of Jesse Ventura saying he was a Navy seal. He went through buds training like other seals but he was assigned to an underwater demolitions team.

The seals don't have a problem with him claiming he was a seal.
This post was edited on 1/23/21 at 2:24 pm
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 1/23/21 at 3:44 pm to
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Ranger School is 2 months.


That’s what they tell you
Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
11811 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 4:17 pm to
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The seals don't have a problem with him claiming he was a seal.


Yup. Don Shipley says if you went to BUDS you are a SEAL, even though BUDS predates anyone actually describing any unit as a "SEAL unit."

Kind of wish Don would dive into the whole "Edwin Edwards was a Navy SEAL" question.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
29962 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 4:30 pm to
This whole "story" is absolute horseshite. I was in the 82nd and me and every other MFer in Alcoholics Anonymous with a Ranger tab was an "Airborne Ranger".

Now the 75th boys might look down on you and give you shite for not being in a "Ranger" unit like I may have for someone with an Airborne tab in a leg unit but that is just part of the perceived unit hierarchy in the Army.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 4:35 pm to
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literally anyone in the military is eligible attend
way to make it sound like its Boy Scout camp sure anyone CAN but how many actually do?
Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
11811 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 5:03 pm to
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literally anyone in the military is eligible attend


"It's only two months."
Posted by Sheep
Neither here nor there
Member since Jun 2007
19694 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 5:14 pm to
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Caroline Tabler told Salon in an email, "Senator Cotton graduated from Ranger school and is more of a Ranger than a Salon reporter like you will ever be."


I don't really care about this controversy, but I'd just like to point out what an exceptionally shitty response this is.

I'm confident that I'm a better soccer player than AT LEAST 6.5 billion of the world's 7.5 billion people - but I don't think I'd ever want somebody to say I'm "much closer to a world class soccer player than you'll ever be."

Had she already told someone "his dad could beat up your dad" that day?
This post was edited on 1/23/21 at 5:15 pm
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 6:12 pm to
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This sounds a bit like the story of Jesse Ventura saying he was a Navy seal. He went through buds training like other seals but he was assigned to an underwater demolitions team.

The seals don't have a problem with him claiming he was a seal.

The problem was Ventura's Playboy interview where he claimed to have "hunted man" in Vietnam when he never served with a team until after that. Very telling that he doesn't have a CAR.
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 6:12 pm to
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way to make it sound like its Boy Scout camp sure anyone CAN but how many actually do?

A 37 year old mother did it.
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
36815 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 6:15 pm to
Fricking great first response and gif usage
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
137992 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 6:19 pm to
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A 37 year old mother "did it".


Fixed
Posted by Philzilla2k
Member since Oct 2017
12385 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 6:21 pm to
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A 37 year old mother did it.

The military lowered standards, fricktard.
Daily Caller - The Inside Story Of How The Army Reduced Standards To Get Women Through Ranger Training
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
56646 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 6:21 pm to
I don't think a frick up such as yourself has any idea how tough Ranger school is
Posted by MWP
Kingwood, TX via Monroe, LA
Member since Jul 2013
10953 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 6:33 pm to
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Jesse Ventura saying he was a Navy seal.


That is because he is one. His trident is just the same as any other SEAL.
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