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re: Livingston Parish 1% tax for teacher raises fails to pass
Posted on 3/26/23 at 3:56 pm to GreenRockTiger
Posted on 3/26/23 at 3:56 pm to GreenRockTiger
quote:teachers need to go after a bigger slice of the pie..... taxpayers rightfully oppose baking a bigger pie
the teachers’ income won’t increase
Blood / turnip
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Posted on 3/26/23 at 4:14 pm to secondandshort
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Non-certified teachers = lower scores which will make LP look even more like their stereotype.
There is no correlation with certification rates and test scores. The state’s teacher certification process is a joke. It’s just basic union protectionism.
Posted on 3/26/23 at 4:23 pm to PaintCompany
Yes every school needs a curriculum coordinator among other needless positions at the school board
Posted on 3/26/23 at 5:10 pm to Shaun176
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EBR spends more because it has a high percentage of Special Ed because most private schools don't take them and due to the high poverty which means more federal funds. These federal funds have rules on how they are spent.
Thank you for the insight.
Posted on 3/26/23 at 5:29 pm to TrouserTrout
What a stupid statement lol. When does a school year last 6 months?
Posted on 3/26/23 at 5:44 pm to Shaun176
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EBR spends more because it has a high percentage of Special Ed because most private schools don't take them and due to the high poverty which means more federal funds. These federal funds have rules on how they are spent.
Successfully educating must not be a rule…
Posted on 3/26/23 at 5:50 pm to IcantBelieveItsNotBu
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If the school board would quit creating positions to give to underqualified former teachers then maybe they wouldn't be so bloated. I'm sure if the money really went to teachers and recruit of more qualified teachers it wouldn't be an issue
Like what position? If you compare the LP central office staffing to other school boards in our are and of similar size, LP is grossly understaffed.
Posted on 3/26/23 at 5:54 pm to tigerbutt
Posted on 3/26/23 at 5:54 pm to Jcorye1
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my senior parents
First rule of arguing about welfare/taxes. Don't make it about anyone you know. Talk about other people's parents, especially if they're minority, and the impacts on them.
FFS (the person you responded to, not you), "best teachers?" Oh, is that why they make more money than the worst teachers? Inquiring minds want to know how teachers are rewarded based on performance. I'll wait. Until I die.
Posted on 3/26/23 at 6:05 pm to Jcorye1
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So tell me then why Baton Rouge spends more per kid than LP yet isn't as good.
All I see is don’t reward the bad schools by throwing money at them. Well here was an opportunity to throw money at one of the least funded districts but has some of the highest performing schools.
Of course it isn’t more money= better scores. But if you have good schools already and can put a little more into it than you can stay there. See Ascension Parish. They have pretty good schools and will continue to stay there because they continually fund it and pay their teachers in order to attract better teachers.
I’d bet the best school districts aren’t lowest paid anywhere.
This post was edited on 3/26/23 at 6:11 pm
Posted on 3/26/23 at 6:10 pm to Antonio Moss
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There is no correlation with certification rates and test scores. The state’s teacher certification process is a joke. It’s just basic union protectionism.
Do you have stats for that? I don’t disagree with some of your statement but I think the poster was trying to say good teachers, certified teachers, proven teachers will have better scores. If you have people wanting to teach in the district ( because of money, situation, etc) you can eventually weed out bad and replace with good.
Posted on 3/26/23 at 6:29 pm to chuckitdeep
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good teachers, certified teachers, proven teachers
Those are three different things.
Was I allowed to teach computer science in high school without being an unpaid intern for a year, with more than a decade of IT experience and an education degree? No. Where chemical engineers I knew that retired from DOW after 30 ish years allowed to teach chemistry in high school in LA? No. So they moved to TX and taught in JR College.
Education is primarily about controlling the availability of competition, particularly at the primary level.
"Certified," what a joke. Nearly all of them spent at least a semester in a class about "classroom control," how's that working out?
Hint, it's the parents. But there's no way on the planet I'm going to agree (even 20 years ago) to get paid the same as someone that struggles to define LAN/WAN/MAN (and that was a 4000 level class in college, let alone high school.) Nope.
Posted on 3/26/23 at 6:34 pm to LemmyLives
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with more than a decade of IT experience and an education degree? No. Where chemical engineers I knew that retired from DOW after 30 ish years allowed to teach chemistry in high school in LA? No. So they moved to TX and taught in JR College
That is not accurate. You can teach with a college degree and no student teaching- “unpaid internship”. Come to LP we’ll hire you right now with those credentials.
Posted on 3/26/23 at 6:36 pm to LemmyLives
quote:MAN is the one with a penis right? Or that's what it was when I was coming up at least
someone that struggles to define LAN/WAN/MAN
Posted on 3/26/23 at 6:54 pm to secondandshort
You mean 9 curriculum coordinators and 6 supervisors of instruction are really needed?
While they are not as bad as other local areas they still have a bloated staff and could cut from that staff or force them to go back into the class room to help with the shortage of teachers.
While they are not as bad as other local areas they still have a bloated staff and could cut from that staff or force them to go back into the class room to help with the shortage of teachers.
Posted on 3/26/23 at 7:00 pm to chuckitdeep
Not that I'm ever moving back to that disaster of a state, but no.
C'mon. I did try this 20 years ago, but 405 contact hours turns into nearly a year. It took me less than two hours for a 12 year old at Istrouma ask to give me ... favors. In front of the entire class. Kids can't read, kids don't want to read, there's 400 of your hours. Moving on.
It's NONSTOP excuses from the educational establishment, but the only answer they like is more $$$$$$$$.
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Candidates must have at least a 2.20 GPA, pass the Praxis exams, and apply to an approved program provider. Candidates are then eligible for a Practitioner License 2 (PL2) that allows them to teach while attending teacher preparation training (at least 405 contact hours
C'mon. I did try this 20 years ago, but 405 contact hours turns into nearly a year. It took me less than two hours for a 12 year old at Istrouma ask to give me ... favors. In front of the entire class. Kids can't read, kids don't want to read, there's 400 of your hours. Moving on.
It's NONSTOP excuses from the educational establishment, but the only answer they like is more $$$$$$$$.
Posted on 3/26/23 at 7:05 pm to TrouserTrout
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They just got a raise in 2021. A starting teacher there makes 45K. That’s pretty good for 6 months of work a year and 7.5 hour days.
That’s the most asinine comment I’ve read in a long time. Complete ignorance
Posted on 3/26/23 at 7:05 pm to Roy Curado
Schools have 180 instruction days per school year.
That equates to six months.
That equates to six months.
Posted on 3/26/23 at 7:12 pm to toosleaux
Livingston Parish schools have to many administrators at the central office. You could lay off half of them and not miss a beat.
Plus, for Denham at least, voters just approved a new property tax to fund DSHS athletic facilities. Shows you the general public's priorites.
Plus, for Denham at least, voters just approved a new property tax to fund DSHS athletic facilities. Shows you the general public's priorites.
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