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re: Liberty Safes is going the way of Bud Light on Twitter. Update: Liberty has responded

Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:41 am to
Posted by sidewalkside
rent free in yo head
Member since Sep 2021
4608 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:41 am to
I was expecting to see safes actually being blown up...terrible post title
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
8883 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:41 am to
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Yep, either give them the code or they are going to bust it open. They were getting in that safe no matter what.

so make them bust it open. this attitude is disgusting.
Posted by Mushroom1968
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2023
6305 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:43 am to
White liberals cheered the burning down of cities across the country during riots but pretended to be mad at some rich politicians getting “scared” They didn’t care when regular citizens got scared due to lack of police
Posted by RedHawk
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
9656 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:43 am to
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decently known pair of political activists


Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
23652 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:43 am to
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Option A - Liberty Safe doesn’t provide master code. FEDs still open safe but destroy it in process.

Option B - Liberty Safe provides code under warrant. FEDs open safe and keep it intact and valuable for owner.

Am I way off?




One of these options maintains your customer base and the other doesn't. Also, the statement from Liberty doesn't state that Liberty was issued a warrant.
Posted by Ash Williams
South of i-10
Member since May 2009
18561 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:43 am to
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Option A - Liberty Safe doesn’t provide master code. FEDs still open safe but destroy it in process.

Option B - Liberty Safe provides code under warrant. FEDs open safe and keep it intact and valuable for owner.

Am I way off?


Option C: Make the Feds get a warrant or order TO Liberty Safe to provide the backdoor code.

That search warrant likely said they could search for and collect evidence in the house. The backdoor code to get into the safe was not located in the house.

Liberty is not required to give them a backdoor code that is in THEIR office without an order or warrant saying they have to
Posted by jdd48
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
23782 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:43 am to
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Option B - Liberty Safe provides code under warrant. FEDs open safe and keep it intact and valuable for owner.

Am I way off?


Yea. If the feds are needing to get into a safe because of a warrant, chances are the owner is not going to need the safe going forward.
Posted by TheChosenOne
Member since Dec 2005
18874 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:44 am to
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Which begs the question: why does Liberty have backdoor access to customer's safes?

Is that normal in the safe industry?


Probably. I imagine there's a backdoor on pretty much every electronic safe these days.
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
8883 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:44 am to
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If you have nothing to hide.. What if there's child porn in there? You saying we shouldn't give police a backdoor to protect our children?

hopefully this is not a serious post. if it is, you argue like a woman.
Posted by Old Hellen Yeller
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9957 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:44 am to
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Which begs the question: why does Liberty have backdoor access to customer's safes?


frickin back doors!!
Posted by Triple13
Ferriday
Member since Aug 2023
504 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:45 am to
How do FBI agents sleep at night?

"Sorry man.... just doing my job."

Posted by UASports23
Basketball School
Member since Nov 2009
26507 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:45 am to
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its that a company that branded itself as a liberty loving organization so quickly capitulated to an increasingly authoritarian law enforcement.


The FBI had a warrant and shared with the the company. The company obliged by law. No one on X has seen said Warrant.

Re: Backdoors. Companies have backdoors into everything in case the customer loses access, etc. It’s not initially nefarious.

Im not gonna bitch and moan about a company following a court order.
Posted by boxcarbarney
Above all things, be a man
Member since Jul 2007
26721 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:45 am to
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I was expecting to see safes actually being blown up...terrible post title



I edited to make you feel better
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
74861 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:47 am to
so what this guy do to have his safe broken into, door kicked down, and him and his wife arrested at gun point?

was he responsible for the 1/6 larping party or something?
Posted by Triple13
Ferriday
Member since Aug 2023
504 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:48 am to
Mike Ward's better start carrying another brand of safes if he wants his business to survive.
Posted by boxcarbarney
Above all things, be a man
Member since Jul 2007
26721 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:48 am to
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was he responsible for the 1/6 larping party or something?



I don't know the specifics, other than the fact that he was there, and that 1/6 was like 9/11 making love to the Holocaust then giving birth to Super Hitler.
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
15277 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:50 am to
Well they might as well go ahead and file bankruptcy now. They are done.

Total bullshite they have a backdoor code to start with much less give it to LEO.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
74861 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:51 am to
damn. so this guy and his wife (who just had a miscarriage) must be like enemy #1 for the alphabet agencies, huh?
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15751 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:55 am to
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I doubt the feds even asked the safe owner for the code.


Doesn't matter
Posted by jaytothen
Member since Jan 2020
8687 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:55 am to
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How do FBI agents sleep at night?



They dream of stray dogs and jack off to fricking American citizens.
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