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re: Let Canada be a cautionary tale - Euthanasia edition

Posted on 4/17/26 at 5:35 am to
Posted by nealnan8
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2016
4637 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 5:35 am to
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get on your knees and pray for Christ to change your mindset.

Why do you bring religion into this? If you want to go this way, then you must realize how many groups of people that God killed, simply for not worshipping him?
Posted by Mongonius
Corpus Christi, TX
Member since Oct 2007
645 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 6:10 am to
I am disturbed by the fact that so many have no concept of the value of redemptive suffering.

It can do us a lot of good.

Of course, if we only believe in the here and now ... disgusting euthanasia makes sense.
Posted by Stealth Matrix
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Member since Aug 2019
11640 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 6:21 am to
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I am disturbed by the fact that so many have no concept of the value of redemptive suffering.

It can do us a lot of good.

What benefit to God do you think your suffering makes, or forcing those around you to watch you suffer? If it's your time to go, but modern medicine forces you to linger for an extra 3 years in pure agony, is that not sowing evil?
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
16555 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 6:27 am to
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If I could’ve killed my father without being prosecuted, I would’ve.


This is disturbing.

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He coded and they brought him back and did a ton more shite for a month.


This is why a DNR is very important in critical situations

Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
5118 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 6:42 am to
Agree. Friends had a parent on home hospice. They’d seek mobile medical help independently as needed.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
475775 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 7:09 am to
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Something has happened to us as a culture and I'm not sure I understand where/how/why the shift has occurred but it's devastating and hopefully reversible. Because if not, I don't know what the eventual endgame is.


It's a combination of us becoming more rational and educated (relying less on fantasies or unsupported hope) and medicine allowing people to live unnaturally long. Modern medicine can keep elderly people with incurable , major chronic disease alive for literally decades.
Posted by riverparish
Member since Dec 2007
1596 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 12:06 pm to
At the beginning? No. But I could see it growing into that just like everything else does. The left isn't known for saying, "ok, we've gone far enough. This is too much".
Posted by Mongonius
Corpus Christi, TX
Member since Oct 2007
645 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 7:10 pm to
God doesn't need our suffering, but He lets us unite it to Christ’s Cross. Agony can be an act of love not a waste. It has merit that we can't see. My 2 cents.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
150099 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 7:19 pm to
My great grandmother died on Tuesday. She refused to be resuscitated if there happen to be any medical issues. She may have been able to buy a little more time with medical technology. She would have been 104 years old in August. She loved the life she lived and was okay with that.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
74666 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 8:28 pm to
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Now, come on, man….do you honestly believe this is what is going on? These are all scare tactics to push some political agenda.


What political agenda? I shared an article and explained why it raises concerns. You haven’t offered a single counterpoint, just more noise. If anyone’s pushing an agenda here, it’s the person avoiding an actual argument.
This post was edited on 4/17/26 at 8:33 pm
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
20056 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 8:33 pm to
This doesn’t bother me that much
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
20056 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 8:36 pm to
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It's pretty simple. We have a Creator. And that creator has been rejected and denied. When you remove the creator and convince people that they are just a bunch of random matter that happened to stick together then you remove the beauty and value of the human life and it's meaning.


You don’t have to participate.

It’s a personal decision. It’s not another life like abortion.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
70861 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 8:47 pm to
Let me guess, people of faith and right leaners are against it, and the left and the godless thinks it's an amazing gift to end suffering.

Did I save myself 5 pages of virtue signaling?
Posted by Stealth Matrix
29°59'55.98"N 90°05'21.85"W
Member since Aug 2019
11640 posts
Posted on 4/18/26 at 8:16 am to
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Agony can be an act of love not a waste. It has merit that we can't see.

Such as
Posted by Everyday Is Saturday
Member since Dec 2025
1227 posts
Posted on 4/18/26 at 8:32 am to
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Watching people lay in nursing home beds for years seems wrong.


Agree.

Met guy who owned nursing homes. After “Revenue per bed” came out his mouth 3 times, I kept trying to get him to talk about the people as people.

“Revenue per bed” two times later and thought he deserved to be on euthanasia list.
Posted by One72
Member since Jul 2022
1464 posts
Posted on 4/20/26 at 1:25 pm to
Death with Dignity, here in Oregon.

DWDA

In 2023, the law was amended to remove the residency requirement. Patients do not need to be residents of Oregon in order to participate in the DWDA.
This post was edited on 4/20/26 at 1:29 pm
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105164 posts
Posted on 4/20/26 at 1:36 pm to
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God doesn't need our suffering, but He lets us unite it to Christ’s Cross. Agony can be an act of love not a waste. It has merit that we can't see. My 2 cents


So why not forego all pain medication? That's the logical conclusion of your premise.

For the last month of her life my mother didn't know who she was or where she was. Her brain had deteriorated, but her pain centers had become overactive. The aides couldn't touch her without her screaming. We finally had to sedate her into complete unconsciousness to give her some relief. It's hard to see how a merciful God would wish someone to suffer like that.

I'll not put myself through that if possible. Hopefully there will be medical means. If not, I already have my own exit strategy planned.
This post was edited on 4/20/26 at 1:39 pm
Posted by Mongonius
Corpus Christi, TX
Member since Oct 2007
645 posts
Posted on 4/25/26 at 9:54 pm to
You don't take pain medicine to kill yourself.
Posted by Camp Randall
The Shadow of the Valley of Death
Member since Nov 2005
17559 posts
Posted on 4/25/26 at 9:59 pm to
Anyone that gets to watch a smart, successful proud elderly parent become a toddler shitting and pissing their pants and forgetting their entire family’s names would understand there is a need.
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
16555 posts
Posted on 4/26/26 at 7:01 am to
Yet your parents didn’t kill you when you were doing the same thing.

They had compassion and took care of you.

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