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re: Legal battle over right-to-life of Lafayette man in vegetative state
Posted on 7/28/21 at 5:25 am to Allluvnohate
Posted on 7/28/21 at 5:25 am to Allluvnohate
quote:It would, I suppose hoping for a miracle is the least one can do
Wouldn't the best solution be for him to communicate for himself what he wants?
Im just suggesting airing dirty laundry here where everybody knows somebody and this sad family tragedy is being played out in the public is unnecessarily and ultimately harmful to those you are trying to help
just mt 2 cents which you will ignore
This post was edited on 7/28/21 at 5:35 am
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Posted on 7/28/21 at 8:58 am to OWLFAN86
Well said, Owlie.
We can all think the wife is a piece of trash with selfish motives (which we do), while still viewing the situation as a whole objectively.
Allluv seems to be too close to Josh or hate Meagan too much to see things through an unbiased lense, and the countless tiktok videos showing Meagan's trashiness aren't doing anything but making Allluv appear a little... obsessive.
Josh cannot "communicate what he wants" like you suggest, that's the whole battle ongoing here. In fact, I'm about the same age as Josh and if it were me in his position I'd be internally begging everyone to put me out of my misery and theirs. I'd want to pass with some dignity, not laying in a bed drooling on myself for 3 years while a public spectacle is made out of my life and family.
Allluv, you keep saying that he "deserves a chance" but what about him deserving to pass with some dignity and a shred of decorum remaining? Instead he's being treated like an object to fight over while laying in a bed 24/7 with no stimulation and no life.
It's sad.
Posted on 7/28/21 at 10:08 am to ForeverEllisHugh
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spouse supersedes parents as a medical proxy.
This is such a terrible principle
I disagree. You choose your spouse, you do not choose your parents. I think it is irresponsible not to have a living will, but if you don't the person you choose to do life with is a better default decision maker IMO than the individuals who birthed you.
Posted on 7/28/21 at 10:33 am to RazorBroncs
I'm interested to know if Alluv actually knows Josh or his mother or just read about it and joined the Justice for Josh crusade and ran with it.
I don't remember all the details of the Terri Shiavo case, but I think there were multiple medical professionals who opined that she was in a persistent vegetative state in spite of her movements. That was another sad case.
I don't remember all the details of the Terri Shiavo case, but I think there were multiple medical professionals who opined that she was in a persistent vegetative state in spite of her movements. That was another sad case.
Posted on 7/28/21 at 10:34 am to Ba Ba Boooey
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Why’s it the jail’s fault he hung himself but didn’t die? How has this thread not been whacked
That’s an ancillary issue that’s not even being discussed in detail.
GTFO
Posted on 7/28/21 at 12:18 pm to Allluvnohate
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She is going to lose it. She won't continue to have guardianship. There is information the lawyers have and no judge in their right mind would allow her to continue making decisions for him
So would/could a court ever overturn a curatorship on evidence that the appointed curator is not acting in the best interest of the infirmed?
Is mom being represented by an attorney?
I also would think that a treatment facility would require all sorts of medical specialists be consulted prior to end of life procedures, lest they be sued for medical malpractice.
Such a sad story all around.
Posted on 7/28/21 at 12:48 pm to RazorBroncs
Josh, blink once if you want to die, twice if you want to live.
Posted on 7/28/21 at 12:55 pm to RazorBroncs
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Allluv, you keep saying that he "deserves a chance" but what about him deserving to pass with some dignity and a shred of decorum remaining? Instead he's being treated like an object to fight over while laying in a bed 24/7 with no stimulation and no life.
I don't believe in throwing someone out like a piece of trash just because they don't live up to your standards. What you don't understand is he don't have to be in the condition he is now. It is from lack of therapy and stimulation which she has done. Nothing you or anyone else says will convince me he doesn't deserve to have a couple months of treatment to see his response. And there are ways for him to communicate but she doesn't want that. If this was really about what Josh wanted she would have him evaluated for a eye gaze communication device so she could express exactly what he wants. But she doesn't care what he wants. She just wants to silence him
Posted on 7/28/21 at 1:00 pm to HDAU
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spouse supersedes parents as a medical proxy.
This is such a terrible principle
I disagree. You choose your spouse, you do not choose your parents. I think it is irresponsible not to have a living will, but if you don't the person you choose to do life with is a better default decision maker IMO than the individuals who birthed you.
So you would choose to have the person who you are in the middle of a divorce with making a life or death decision for you? And their incentive to choose death is a million dollar lawsuit.
That should definitely be taken into account in this situation.
Posted on 7/28/21 at 1:07 pm to Go Cat Go
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She is going to lose it. She won't continue to have guardianship. There is information the lawyers have and no judge in their right mind would allow her to continue making decisions for him
So would/could a court ever overturn a curatorship on evidence that the appointed curator is not acting in the best interest of the infirmed?
Is mom being represented by an attorney?
Yes that is what they are going to court for now. The Terri Schiavo Life and Hope Network and Life Legal Defense Foundation helped his mom get a lawyer. His mom is asking for the curatorship be given to her. The judge will look at all the evidence and decide if his mom should be curator, if the evil wife should continue or if it should be a 3rd party
Posted on 7/28/21 at 1:09 pm to Mr Clean
quote:BaBa is fricking up your thread
Mr Clean
a man would something about that
Posted on 7/28/21 at 1:15 pm to Mr Clean
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Why’s it the jail’s fault he hung himself but didn’t die?
That’s an ancillary issue that’s not even being discussed in detail.
GTFO
The jail is being sued because she is claiming they were negligent. He was acting "bizarre" during booking and they have policies in place to keep people safe. She claims they didn't follow policy like putting him on suicide watch. Instead they allowed him to go into a restroom and left him unattended for 20 minutes.
This post was edited on 7/28/21 at 1:19 pm
Posted on 7/28/21 at 1:18 pm to Ba Ba Boooey
The jail gets sued anytime someone dies in custody
Posted on 7/28/21 at 1:25 pm to Mr Clean
I was under the impression that jails have a responsibility to identify individuals who demonstrate suicidal ideation during the intake phase and thereafter.
Posted on 7/28/21 at 1:26 pm to Allluvnohate
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Nothing you or anyone else says will convince me he doesn't deserve to have a couple months of treatment to see his response
Then, why are you continuing to post about this subject. Also, did you go to Comeaux, Carencro, or NISH, because bruh, your syntax and grammar are terrible. I can actually hear your accent as I read it?
Posted on 7/28/21 at 1:27 pm to yellowfin
what I find very strange is these people are fighting harder for the dude's life in a vegetative state than he did for his own life when he was normal. He tried to kill himself, he didnt want to live any more under normal circumstances, yet they are fighting to keep his body alive under abnormal circumstances. Bizarre
Posted on 7/28/21 at 1:37 pm to supatigah
1. I hope no one ever keeps me alive in that situation
2. If they do and they post videos of me drooling myself all over the internet I’m coming back and kicking someone’s arse.
2. If they do and they post videos of me drooling myself all over the internet I’m coming back and kicking someone’s arse.
Posted on 7/28/21 at 2:14 pm to Allluvnohate
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So you would choose to have the person who you are in the middle of a divorce with making a life or death decision for you? And their incentive to choose death is a million dollar lawsuit.
That should definitely be taken into account in this situation.
No, I wouldn't. I would/do have a living will stating who should be my healthcare proxy. If my choice changes, so will my documents. That isn't what we are discussing here, however. The statement that I disagreed with was that it is bad policy (i.e., default rule) for the spouse to be first in line as a healthcare proxy if one isn't named. Policy shouldn't be written for outlier situations. Regardless of who is the best decision maker in this situation, I think we can say that it is an outlier, and a situation that could be avoided with the execution of a simple document.
Posted on 7/28/21 at 2:21 pm to Allluvnohate
I know you didn’t like the opinions I had earlier in this thread but you should delete your responses and the links to all videos. This patient deserves dignity and this thread can be printed and used in court. The accusations you have levied and the disregard for patient privacy may come back to haunt you. Delete your posts and step away from the keyboard.
Posted on 7/28/21 at 2:24 pm to jennBN
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