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re: Law Baws: firm, in-house or DA's office fresh out of school?
Posted on 3/18/25 at 12:11 am to OleVaught14
Posted on 3/18/25 at 12:11 am to OleVaught14
First year associates can barely read. Ain’t nobody showing them how to run the firm.
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Posted on 3/18/25 at 2:34 am to Masterag
3.
Billable hours ruin any work life balance. In house with an energy company would let you have a life.
If you tack on an MBA and got into contracts / negotiations with the company, even better.
Billable hours ruin any work life balance. In house with an energy company would let you have a life.
If you tack on an MBA and got into contracts / negotiations with the company, even better.
This post was edited on 3/18/25 at 2:35 am
Posted on 3/18/25 at 4:10 am to Masterag
Whatever you specialize in, make damn sure AI can’t do the same thing as you.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 4:56 am to Masterag
From my experience, go with 3. Become an expert in the field and a lot of doors will open at other companies. Better work life balance and no internal BS from partners.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 5:02 am to MyRockstarComplex
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Whatever you specialize in, make damn sure AI can’t do the same thing as you.
If this is a primary motivator I would always recommend criminal law. Unless or until SCOTUS rules that the 6th Amendment right to counsel can be stretched to allow AI "lawyers" that job is safe. Outside of elected officials, defense attorneys have the only constitutionally protected job.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 5:59 am to GeorgeBaird
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First year associates can barely read. Ain’t nobody showing them how to run the firm.
100% agree. But if his goal is to work 5 years and then move home, he should have plenty of opportunity in those 5 years to pick up what it's like running a small firm
Posted on 3/18/25 at 6:15 am to Masterag
It should be pointed out that you don’t really know what type of law you want to do yet.
You have an idea of what you want to do, you have some preferences, but those preferences and what you end up doing for your career in the long run can be completely different.
If your three choices are all legit, they’re all good options, so go work with the people you think you’ll enjoy working with.
The money side of things will work itself out.
You have an idea of what you want to do, you have some preferences, but those preferences and what you end up doing for your career in the long run can be completely different.
If your three choices are all legit, they’re all good options, so go work with the people you think you’ll enjoy working with.
The money side of things will work itself out.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 6:17 am to Masterag
How is guy No. 2 clearing a million a year doing family law? Those numbers seem a bit exaggerated TBH.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 6:20 am to Masterag
If you are planning on buying a house and starting a family the corporate stability would be my guess.
Being an assistant DA sounds like a pain in the arse
Being an assistant DA sounds like a pain in the arse
Posted on 3/18/25 at 6:27 am to boosiebadazz
Easy. You just need to bill 3000 hours a year.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 6:38 am to Masterag
Not an attorney, but one of my best friends started as an ADA after passing the bar a couple years ago and loves it. He's in court a large portion of the time and has great work/life balance. Great benefits, but I'm sure the pay is less than what you stated being this is in Louisiana.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 6:42 am to Masterag
If I could do it all over, I would either work for a company or mix time in private and public. Had I not gotten extremely lucky, my retirement would be looking really bleak.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 6:46 am to Masterag
If the impending major recession/RE crash is anything like the 2008 one, you want to run to option 2. I say this as a person who graduated in 2008.
Most lawyers who take job 1 want job 3 by year 3 or so, also.
Most lawyers who take job 1 want job 3 by year 3 or so, also.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 6:46 am to boosiebadazz
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How is guy No. 2 clearing a million a year doing family law? Those numbers seem a bit exaggerated TBH.
I call bullshite . Those numbers “an hour outside of Dallas “are beyond exaggerated for a solo family law practice.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 6:49 am to boosiebadazz
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How is guy No. 2 clearing a million a year doing family law?
That is basically impossible outside of a few outliers in the largest metro areas, but I let it slide.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 6:49 am to Athanatos
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Easy. You just need to bill 3000 hours a year.
Naw, you need 20 associates billing 2500/year
Posted on 3/18/25 at 6:51 am to Stitches
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Great benefits, but I'm sure the pay is less than what you stated being this is in Louisiana.
If he's really making 100 coming out of LS it's comparable. Certain DA offices pay almost market rate, like my local DA. We get kids from all over LA due to that.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 7:00 am to Masterag
#1 for me except at a large firm now instead of solo.
Works pretty well if you have good referral sources
Works pretty well if you have good referral sources
Posted on 3/18/25 at 7:23 am to Masterag
Your friend is bullshitting you. Pick 1 or 2 and think about staying as a DA. If you pick 3 you better pray there is no dip in the price of oil.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 7:39 am to Bullfrog
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Billable hours ruin any work life balance. In house with an energy company would let you have a life.
Friends with a couple where the husband works for a big firm who are really butting heads right now over this. Three kids and makes probably $250k+ a year, but is apparently never home and with the kids hitting sports/extra curricular activity age, things are getting stressful quick. I've heard him curse the term "billable hours" on more than one occasion
. He just got to the point where he is apparently shopping around for a new gig, hoping they find some peace. I'm in my 30s and don't mind the grind (and don't work in law) right now, but man I really hope to slow down to 40 hour work week when I'm in my mid 40s and have kids who need me/my support.
This post was edited on 3/18/25 at 7:42 am
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