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re: Laura - President Trump visits Lake Charles, Louisiana for Hurricane Response Update

Posted on 8/21/20 at 10:57 am to
Posted by Glock17
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 8/21/20 at 10:57 am to
Looks like the latest GFS isn’t doing much with either storm 96 hours in
Posted by DhanTigers212
Member since Dec 2014
10497 posts
Posted on 8/21/20 at 10:58 am to
I’m bad with understand all this weather stuff. Is it possible either of these systems hit Louisiana head on?
Posted by burdman
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
22741 posts
Posted on 8/21/20 at 10:58 am to
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But also realize the hurricane models aren't really intensifying the other one when they do storm scale projections and that would certainly throw a wrench into the intensity forecasts.

Don't pay attention to the pressure and winds, but do pay attention when they show quick strengthening as that is a pretty good signal conditions will be favorable for the storms.


Gotcha.

I'd assume we don't really need pay attention to pressure & winds projections until we see what happens after it crosses the Yucatan?
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 8/21/20 at 10:58 am to
I don’t see how Laura survives the land interaction with Cuba if the center goes over land
Posted by msutiger
Houston
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 8/21/20 at 11:00 am to
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This post was edited on 3/31/23 at 4:14 pm
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
51758 posts
Posted on 8/21/20 at 11:01 am to
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don’t see how Laura survives the land interaction with Cuba if the center goes over land


It’ll probably survive, but I think land interaction will probably help keep it from becoming stronger than a Cat. 1 or 2 in the Gulf. Since it’ll have to recover from the land interaction, rapid strengthening will probably be kept at bay.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
50827 posts
Posted on 8/21/20 at 11:01 am to
I just had a thought that concerns me, and for those who know this professionally, please let me know if this is a valid concern.

As Laura comes into the Gulf coast, TD 13 (Marco) will be to the west along the Gulf coast. As Laura begins the natural turn northward and northeastward, she's going to pull Marco behind her in the weakness. Wherever Laura goes could have a serious flooding issue with the rains from it AND all the drawn out rains from Marco going over the same area.


Never thought about that but haven't followed this thread closely until now so maybe it was already mentioned.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
177377 posts
Posted on 8/21/20 at 11:03 am to
Looking more like the path Hurricane Georges took by the second.
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
95034 posts
Posted on 8/21/20 at 11:04 am to
quote:

Wherever Laura goes could have a serious flooding issue with the rains from it AND all the drawn out rains from Marco going over the same area.


As soon as I got finished reading who I follow, I came back and saw your concern. Here’s an excerpt...

quote:


There is still no clarity about the prediction for Tropical Depressions 14 and TS Laura. Neither system has greatly intensified in the past 24 hours. But it seems logical that both depressions will attain named status by Saturday. I see no need (yet) to alter the path scenarios into SE TX and will argue against rapid strengthening. Keep in mind that when a major hurricane threat looms, most forecast guidance will pick up on that potential well in advance. Examples: Floyd (1999), Sandy (2012), and Maria (2017).

I have some concerns, however, about excess rainfall along the Gulf Coast into lower Appalachia by the middle of next week. There is a sizable risk that two systems may merge and slow down, perhaps getting trapped under an elongated subtropical high. Using the ECMWF model output, it might take until August 29-30 for a cold front to pick up the remnants and allow for drying in Dixie.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
102818 posts
Posted on 8/21/20 at 11:06 am to
I would ignore the GFS on intensity. It’s been way behind where the storms actually are. For some reason it’s struggling with this system
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
50827 posts
Posted on 8/21/20 at 11:06 am to
quote:

quote:
Wherever Laura goes could have a serious flooding issue with the rains from it AND all the drawn out rains from Marco going over the same area.


As soon as I got finished reading who I follow, I came back and saw your concern. Here’s an excerpt...

quote:

There is still no clarity about the prediction for Tropical Depressions 14 and TS Laura. Neither system has greatly intensified in the past 24 hours. But it seems logical that both depressions will attain named status by Saturday. I see no need (yet) to alter the path scenarios into SE TX and will argue against rapid strengthening. Keep in mind that when a major hurricane threat looms, most forecast guidance will pick up on that potential well in advance. Examples: Floyd (1999), Sandy (2012), and Maria (2017).

I have some concerns, however, about excess rainfall along the Gulf Coast into lower Appalachia by the middle of next week. There is a sizable risk that two systems may merge and slow down, perhaps getting trapped under an elongated subtropical high. Using the ECMWF model output, it might take until August 29-30 for a cold front to pick up the remnants and allow for drying in Dixie.


Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
147183 posts
Posted on 8/21/20 at 11:06 am to
can really see the LLC on TD14 on the visible satellite

but the storms are so far away from it
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 8/21/20 at 11:13 am to
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Looking more like the path Hurricane Georges took by the second.


That's a great call on an analog.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
177377 posts
Posted on 8/21/20 at 11:15 am to
Once I get my forecasting gig I’d like to be a “weather historian” on the side. I was watching a doc one time and that title came up under the guy they were interviewing and I thought that sounds like a pretty sweet side hustle if you like weather and history. I see these paths and immediately recall a similar one.
This post was edited on 8/21/20 at 11:16 am
Posted by HogX
Madison, WI
Member since Dec 2012
5637 posts
Posted on 8/21/20 at 11:18 am to
quote:

I was watching a doc one time and that title came up under the guy they were interviewing and I thought that sounds like a pretty sweet side hustle if you like weather and history


Now there's a podcast I would follow.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
134673 posts
Posted on 8/21/20 at 11:23 am to
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
177377 posts
Posted on 8/21/20 at 11:25 am to
How long until a model shows them both going up the Mississippi? You know it’s coming. Every time a storm is in the Gulf we get a model right up the river. It’s like an inside joke or something.
Posted by PhillyTiger90
Not Phillytiger9
Member since Dec 2015
11864 posts
Posted on 8/21/20 at 11:25 am to
I remember being a wee lad in Death Valley watching LSU vs Idaho when all the older people were worried about Georges hitting in next few days.

I didn’t give a frick bc we were skull dragging Idaho that night but my parents had already packed our bags to leave for Memphis the next morning
Posted by NorthEndZone
Member since Dec 2008
14315 posts
Posted on 8/21/20 at 11:26 am to
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105322 posts
Posted on 8/21/20 at 11:28 am to
quote:

I remember being a wee lad in Death Valley watching LSU vs Idaho when all the older people were worried about Georges hitting in next few days.


Dan Borne was announcing evacuation orders over the PA.
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