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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 5/10/22 at 12:18 pm to Centinel
Posted on 5/10/22 at 12:18 pm to Centinel
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Yes. I've been there. I've worked with their military.
Can you say the same?
The United States nearly completely funds and arms their military. The US has no choice but to take care of their corrupt puppet state.
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Posted on 5/10/22 at 12:19 pm to Stidham8
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How's morale for the Ukrainian's in that area then? Nonexistent?
You have no logic. Morale could potentially be coming from their drive to protect their people, homes, towns/cities and country?!
Posted on 5/10/22 at 12:21 pm to Centinel
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You sure about that boss?
Might want to go read the news. Specifically the stories pointing out that both of Russia's tank factories have shut down due to not enough parts and foreign systems due to the sanctions.
Same thing with their main SAM builder.
Yeah the one from a top Biden administration official. The same crew that told us Afghanistan had no chance of falling to the Taliban.
I'm sure they've got some beachfront property in Washington D.C. they could sell you too.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 12:22 pm to StormyMcMan
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But how is that "proof" of moral
Hard proof has been seen in the intercepts and talking to the Russian POWs.
Otherwise, look at it this way:
You're a conscript. You're told you're sent to a training exercise. Next thing you know your buddies next to you explode. You run out of gas, aren't getting paid, and have to scrounge for food.
Your unit is getting blown apart on a daily basis.
At the strategic level, yes it does come down to poor planning, doctrine, and logistics. But that has a *massive* effect on an army at the individual soldier level, and it's not a good one.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 12:22 pm to Stidham8
Russia told us they weren't invading in February. American intel sources said they were.
Why do you trust the Russian sources?
Why do you trust the Russian sources?
Posted on 5/10/22 at 12:22 pm to Stidham8
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Most of Eastern Europe is heavily influenced by the United States since the fall of the soviet Union. Just as much of Eastern Europe was a puppet state of the Soviet Union until it fell.
Yea, Belarus, big Western satellite right there
Posted on 5/10/22 at 12:23 pm to Stidham8
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I think putin will invest whatever manpower needed to win the entire war over the months and years to come.
This is not sustainable for Russia over the long term. If the Ukraine was by itself sure, but with all the support they’ve been receiving while Russia is getting sanctioned I don’t see it. Even if they conquer most of the country, holding onto to it will be very difficult.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 12:24 pm to TigerDoc
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Russia told us they weren't invading in February. American intel sources said they were.
Why do you trust the Russian sources?
I don't trust a word of what either side says. Most of it is propaganda.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 12:26 pm to Stidham8
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I don't trust a word of what either side says. Most of it is propaganda.
Yet here you are, spitting out nothing but Russian propaganda in every one of your posts.
"Russia will build more tanks!"
Uh, both tank factories are shut down, as reported by multiple sources and agencies.
"That's just a Biden lie!!!!"
Posted on 5/10/22 at 12:27 pm to Stidham8
You don't think your confidence in Russia's ability to conquer Ukraine is attributable to propaganda, though?
Posted on 5/10/22 at 12:31 pm to TigerDoc
Here, let me do the link analysis of why stidham and others like him carry Russian water:
He hates Biden. Hunter Biden was involved in some shady shite with a Ukrainian company. That then means Zelensky is corrupt, and the only reason he's in power is Biden's influence along with the CIA.
So to defend Zelensky, and the Ukrainian people, is to agree with Biden.
And that simply must not be. Therefore, since Biden is for Ukraine, that means he must be for Russia, since he must stand against Biden at all times and at all costs.
Meanwhile, rational people can disagree with the current President, and be repulsed by his party's ideology, yet also side with the country that was unilaterally invaded by Russia.
He hates Biden. Hunter Biden was involved in some shady shite with a Ukrainian company. That then means Zelensky is corrupt, and the only reason he's in power is Biden's influence along with the CIA.
So to defend Zelensky, and the Ukrainian people, is to agree with Biden.
And that simply must not be. Therefore, since Biden is for Ukraine, that means he must be for Russia, since he must stand against Biden at all times and at all costs.
Meanwhile, rational people can disagree with the current President, and be repulsed by his party's ideology, yet also side with the country that was unilaterally invaded by Russia.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 12:32 pm to Centinel
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Yet here you are, spitting out nothing but Russian propaganda in every one of your posts. "Russia will build more tanks!" Uh, both tank factories are shut down, as reported by multiple sources and agencies. "That's just a Biden lie!!!!"
I’m not naive and gullible enough to believe a Biden administration official when he says a major countries ability to build tanks is completely shut off. That sounds ridiculous.
And it’s coming from an administration who lies nearly breathlessly.
- They said the Taliban had no chance of taking Afghanistan
- Inflation was only a “temporary spike”
- called their Afghanistan pullout a “major success”
- insists the border surge is “seasonal”
- Gas prices are “going down” yet they’re $4 dollars and higher everywhere you look.
- literally Biden himself got up on TV and said it’s not true his administration or policies are holding back domestic energy production (LOL)
So excuse me for not believing anything they say. And it’s laughable that you buy it hook line and sinker.
This post was edited on 5/10/22 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 5/10/22 at 12:35 pm to Stidham8
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Russia is going to continue pumping out weapons, tanks, and ammunition as the war goes on too.
You'll probably say it's propaganda but
LINK
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“Because of the export controls we’ve already put in place, Russia’s top two manufacturers of tanks are no longer in business,” Deputy Secretary of the Treasury Wally Adeyemo said Monday. “Russia today has far fewer tanks than they had going into this invasion, and they can't make more because of the action that we're taking with sanctions.”
Posted on 5/10/22 at 12:35 pm to Centinel
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Here, let me do the link analysis of why stidham and others like him carry Russian water: He hates Biden. Hunter Biden was involved in some shady shite with a Ukrainian company. That then means Zelensky is corrupt, and the only reason he's in power is Biden's influence along with the CIA. So to defend Zelensky, and the Ukrainian people, is to agree with Biden. And that simply must not be. Therefore, since Biden is for Ukraine, that means he must be for Russia, since he must stand against Biden at all times and at all costs. Meanwhile, rational people can disagree with the current President, and be repulsed by his party's ideology, yet also side with the country that was unilaterally invaded by Russia.
Ukraine on Fire does a great job of breaking it down. YouTube censored it because they were afraid of the truth getting out. Here’s a link to Rumble of the documentary. Have an open mind and give it a watch. Oliver Stone actually leans more left than right. This is pre-Trump.
LINK
This post was edited on 5/10/22 at 12:38 pm
Posted on 5/10/22 at 12:38 pm to StormyMcMan
“ Russia 'can't make more' tanks because of this key sanction, Biden official says”
Lol
Lol
Posted on 5/10/22 at 12:38 pm to Centinel
I've said the same thing on here in the past. This anti-ukraine sentiment comes from Bidens history and Trump's call with Zelensky being the basis for impeachment.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 12:40 pm to Chromdome35
That’s not true. Give this a watch. It’s from before Trump was President.
Oliver Stone’s “Ukraine on Fire”
Oliver Stone’s “Ukraine on Fire”
This post was edited on 5/10/22 at 12:41 pm
Posted on 5/10/22 at 12:43 pm to Chromdome35
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I've said the same thing on here in the past. This anti-ukraine sentiment comes from Bidens history and Trump's call with Zelensky being the basis for impeachment.
Don't forget Trump's love for Putin, the savvy genius. That may be a part of it as well.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 12:47 pm to Stidham8
And now the videos come out. LOL
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