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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 4/26/22 at 11:41 am to
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 4/26/22 at 11:41 am to
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The Romanians arent bad and lots of American (I mean NATO) firepower in Romania.

small but capable. before this war id have said theyd be in trouble if they had to take russia on in a vacuum without NATO but now lol
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 4/26/22 at 11:42 am to
Looks like this is getting ready to start spilling outside of Ukraine sadly. Shutting off gas supplies to Poland, bombing the bridge near Romania this morning, and the (I'm assuming) false flag attacks in Moldova/Transnistria not looking great for being a contained protracted conflict anymore

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The Moldovan Military has been put on “Alert” in the Border Regions with Transnistria and additional Security Measures and Patrols are being conducted at Checkpoints, Moldovan Forces are also reportedly being deployed to Critical/Sensitive Infrastructure throughout the Country.

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Ukrainian Intelligence Officials have reported that they have seen indications that Russian Forces in Transnistria have been brought Full Combat Alert and the readiness level of the Transnistrian Military is also being increased.

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This post was edited on 4/26/22 at 11:43 am
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/26/22 at 11:47 am to
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Tranistria is a weird damn place.

its basically one large soviet time capsule
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 4/26/22 at 11:59 am to
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Looks like this is getting ready to start spilling outside of Ukraine sadly. Shutting off gas supplies to Poland, bombing the bridge near Romania this morning, and the (I'm assuming) false flag attacks in Moldova/Transnistria not looking great for being a contained protracted conflict anymore


You think Putin is trying to bait NATO into escalating their intervention thus giving Vlady the reason he needs to activate full conscription of their military?
This post was edited on 4/26/22 at 12:00 pm
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 4/26/22 at 12:01 pm to
What’s stopping him from just activating now?
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46632 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 12:03 pm to
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What’s stopping him from just activating now?



Public backlash.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 4/26/22 at 12:07 pm to
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Public backlash.


I dunno man, not much backlash left.

Plus the cost, time to train, and poorly trained troops (even worse than their "trained" troops) on the battlefield isnt going to help.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 4/26/22 at 12:13 pm to
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You think Putin is trying to bait NATO into escalating their intervention thus giving Vlady the reason he needs to activate full conscription of their military?
Sort of like kicking over the motorcycles at a biker bar to give my buddy a reason to exercise?
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11942 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 12:14 pm to
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You think Putin is trying to bait NATO into escalating their intervention thus giving Vlady the reason he needs to activate full conscription of their military?


Also for geopolitical narratives. If Russia doesn't look like the aggressor wedges can be widened to break the western sanctions regime and get China off the sidelines.
This post was edited on 4/26/22 at 12:16 pm
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 4/26/22 at 12:21 pm to
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Also for geopolitical narratives. If Russia doesn't look like the aggressor wedges can be widened to break the western sanctions regime and get China off the sidelines.



Didn't think about that. good point
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105838 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 12:37 pm to
This may have something to do with the recent Russian bellicosity toward Romania

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Ukraine has sent around 80,000 tones of grains to the Romanian Black Sea port of Constanta so far, with more expected to arrive, the port's manager said on Tuesday.

Ukraine's sea ports have been blocked since a Russian invasion two months ago and the country, a major agricultural producer, has been forced to export by train via its western border or via its small Danube river ports into Romania.

European Union member Romania shares borders of the Black Sea - a major shipping artery for grain and oil - with Bulgaria, Turkey, Georgia and Ukraine.

"There are around 80,000 tonnes of grains which have already arrived, they are stored in silos, a part of them were loaded on ship," Constanta Port manager Florin Goidea told Reuters.

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Posted by Dataisbeautiful
Member since Apr 2022
61 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 12:49 pm to
Meh. This would be the case if china was looking for an excuse….I’m not sure they are.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11942 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 1:05 pm to
You might be right. I'm less versed on Chinese politics, but from Putin's POV, he wants to give them as few reasons to say no as possible & wants to move weakly western-aligned countries to neutral and neutrals to move his way. They've been investing a lot of propaganda on the global south.
Posted by Dataisbeautiful
Member since Apr 2022
61 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 1:30 pm to
I’m not sure the CCP is going to appreciate a manipulation attempt for pure Russian interests…especially with India still getting shite from Russia. But who knows?
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45906 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 1:32 pm to
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Looks like about 1,500.


If that is the case. Ukraine needs to attack those forces in its rear. It is part of the 5+2 format for the Transnistria and Moldova situation. Since Ukraine is part of 5+2 format it has just as much legal right to deploy peace keepers to Transnistria as Russia does. Especially if Moldova gave them the ok.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45906 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 1:38 pm to
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What’s stopping him from just activating now?



Russia cannot afford to pay them.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 1:50 pm to
Probably damage to the economy. You’re taking those men from their civilian jobs.

They may not see it as necessary too.

Those conscripts would also be much less effective soldiers.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 2:17 pm to
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Probably damage to the economy. You’re taking those men from their civilian jobs.


Thats actually a good point, lots of drain on the economy so dont mess with the workforce.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 2:20 pm to
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And the women are sooooo damn hot.



I'm beyond pissed, Iraq Afghanistan Iraq Afghanistan and now at the end of the line we are going to fight in Ukraine and Romania? not fair.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11942 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 2:22 pm to
I'd be curious to hear y'all's thoughts on this, especially on the timing of releasing this. I suspect they're taking credit now (albeit leaked) and having the Secs of State & Defense visit Kiev because they're sufficiently confident of the Ukrainian state surviving and now they want their share of the credit .

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As Russia launched its invasion, the U.S. gave Ukrainian forces detailed intelligence about exactly when and where Russian missiles and bombs were intended to strike, prompting Ukraine to move air defenses and aircraft out of harm’s way, current and former U.S. officials told NBC News.

That near real-time intelligence-sharing also paved the way for Ukraine to shoot down a Russian transport plane carrying hundreds of troops in the early days of the war, the officials say, helping repel a Russian assault on a key airport near Kyiv.

It was part of what American officials call a massive and unprecedented intelligence-sharing operation with a non-NATO partner that they say has played a crucial role in Ukraine’s success to date against the larger and better-equipped Russian military.

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“There has been a lot of real-time intelligence shared in terms of things that could be used for specific targeting of Russian forces,” said a former senior intelligence official familiar with the situation. The information includes commercial satellite images “but also a lot of other intelligence about, for example, where certain types of Russian units are active.”

Ukraine continues to move air defenses and aircraft nearly every day with the help of American intelligence, which is one reason Russia has not been able to establish air dominance. In some cases, Ukraine moved the targeted air defense systems or planes just in time, the officials said.

“The Russian military has literally been cratering empty fields where air defenses were once set up,” one U.S. official said. “It has had an enormous impact on the Russian military’s ability on the ground.”




U.S. intel helped Ukraine protect air defenses, shoot down Russian plane carrying hundreds of troops
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