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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 4/21/22 at 6:03 pm to
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 4/21/22 at 6:03 pm to
You are a brave freedom fighter.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
42580 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 6:04 pm to
I get mad at South Carolina losing to Clemson, not this shite. I have strong opinions that I know are unpopular. Whatever.
Posted by PrecedentedTimes
Member since Dec 2020
3128 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 6:05 pm to
You’re like an angry version of OMLandshark
Posted by Palantir
I've been a Columbia House
Member since Oct 2020
691 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 6:10 pm to
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You don't know the first thing about me. I picture you as some fat, acne-riddled Reddit poster whose idea of a good time is watching John Oliver with a girl you've wanted to date for a time but has been ran through by every other guy in your friend circle because you're such a pathetic loser.
That's quite the imagination
Posted by PassingThrough
Member since Sep 2021
2622 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 6:14 pm to
Dude. Not. Even. Close. The biggest threat to any individual liberty at this time are plutocrats from all types of countries. The US military is not really a threat to American individualism apart from those in it, but the loss of a stable middle class will be greatly detrimental to all.
Posted by Tigris
Cloud Cuckoo Land
Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 4/21/22 at 6:17 pm to
SCLibertarian

Shows up and slings his feces everywhere. Then complains about:

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this cesspool of a thread

Awesome.

"None of you keyboard warmongers ... gave two shits about Russian aggression when Russia invaded Georgia over South Ossetia. Nobody gave a shite when the Russians massacred Chechens by the thousands over a 20 year period."

You are entirely wrong about that (what a surprise). For some perspective, though, Chechnya has 1.4 million people, and is in the middle of nowhere, and put up a hell of a fight. South Ossetia had around 54k, though the Russians have typically shipped a lot out and moved in their people so that they control the elections. Ukraine has 44 million people (debatable I guess, Russian bots and American morons will go with zero). Russia has openly said for years that they were going to do this. And that they expect to recover control over all of the Eastern Europe states that they formerly controlled. This is definitely the place to draw the line in the sand. And it's really more the Eastern Europe states doing this - Poland in particular. We need to support that to a huge extent, this is important just as Poland was in 1939. The parallels are striking, except that Russia is delusional in thinking that they have that kind of military power.

Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 6:18 pm to
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It's the same thing with Saddam. He was our ally and then we needed to topple him

Yeah, lest we forget that he was a despotic dictator who invaded a sovereign country for its oil and wealth and then supplied weapons to the very terrorists/groups that attacked us on 9/11.

But keep throwing out straw men.
This post was edited on 4/21/22 at 6:19 pm
Posted by Abstract Queso Dip
Member since Mar 2021
5878 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 6:19 pm to
I leave for a bit and this place gets a sideways

It's like thinking that without cheese dip you want be able to sell Mexican food... But when you got a taco truck that also sells fatass delicious burritos you don't need to sell queso. Takes up too much space. That isn't discounting the influence and importance that queso dip has had on brick and mortar restaurants. 2 things can be true.
This post was edited on 4/21/22 at 6:21 pm
Posted by OleWar
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Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 4/21/22 at 6:21 pm to
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Putin is an old KGB agent who knew how to play him by appealing to his Christianity.


Sure, but it was also in the context of June 2001. Early in the Bush term the Hainan Island incident had occurred only a couple of months before, most of the security establishment was focused on China. Bush had been critical of US involvement in the Balkans. I was stationed in Germany and all of the talk was about pulling the rest of US forces out of Germany. Both Russia and the US had a lot of interests in cooperation.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
150781 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 6:23 pm to
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I have strong opinions that I know are unpopular. Whatever.

why the frick have we ended up with the diet shasta OML
This post was edited on 4/21/22 at 6:24 pm
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 6:26 pm to
Posted by OleWar
Troy H. Middleton Library
Member since Mar 2008
5828 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 6:27 pm to
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this is important just as Poland was in 1939


Which became occupied by the Soviet Union by 1945
Posted by klrstix
Shreveport, LA
Member since Oct 2006
3628 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 7:08 pm to
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the loss of a stable middle class will be greatly detrimental to all.




indeed
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75776 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 7:11 pm to
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I picture you as some fat, acne-riddled Reddit poster

I don't have a dog in this fight, but I always find it hilarious that all "sides" in this political shitshow inevitably play the "Reddit Card". It always happens. Like it is scripted, or programmed. Everyone goes for it at some point.

Posted by PhilipMarlowe
Member since Mar 2013
22046 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 7:27 pm to
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You’re like an angry version of OMLandshark


Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5180 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 7:32 pm to
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I have a question for the board:

If Ukraine survives this, do you see them being invited and/or being granted membership to Nato? What are the chances of that happening?


They damn sure better after the billions we’ve pumped in there. I mean that’s sort of the point isn’t it? Obviously to indirectly frick Russia, but after should you waste the opportunity to avoid it more in the future? No.

Aside from that, when this is over Ukraine will be the most combat tested country in the EU and second most in NATO aside from us. They’ll need to rearm, regroup, rebuild. We will help a LOT, but American companies will reap a lot of those beneifts. We’ll gain what should be a competent partner in the alliance, another natural resource trading partner, I’d hope. If we help create a more open economy in rebuilding theoretically it’s a much wider market for American goods and services than before.
Posted by Dataisbeautiful
Member since Apr 2022
61 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 7:34 pm to
Your opinions are unpopular because they derive from a depth of thought parallel to orangutans.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45917 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 7:45 pm to
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Do not the Russians have tactical air, or are they that backward? The Ukrainians have no air force. It seems strange to me that Russia is using tactics that do not incorporate that component. It’s been around for 75 years.


Based on the videos of the air campaign lately. It looks like Russia is using more and more unguided or dumb bombs. That means the Russians have to fly low for the bombs to be hit their target.

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All those handheld SAMs must be an incredible deterrent to possibly losing expensive airplanes and helicopters. That begs the question: why build them?


Those MANPADs are deadly to low flying aircraft. Western air forces have a lot more guided munitions than the Russians. Which means western planes can stay out of MANPAD range and still hit their target. Plus western air forces have much more advanced counter measures to defeat the MANPADs.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
42580 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 7:46 pm to
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Your opinions are unpopular because they derive from a depth of thought parallel to orangutans.

Coming from someone who's entire post history is concentrated in this neocon central thread I'll take that as a compliment
Posted by pussywillows
Member since Dec 2009
6671 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 7:53 pm to
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You don't know the first thing about me. I picture you as some fat, acne-riddled Reddit poster whose idea of a good time is watching John Oliver with a girl you've wanted to date for a time but has been ran through by every other guy in your friend circle because you're such a pathetic loser.


this is just sad...

and the fact that you think you know what everyone here is thinking, while pretending that you're some inscrutable sage that is beyond anyone's comprehension, shows a laughable lack of self-awareness...
This post was edited on 4/21/22 at 7:55 pm
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