re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

quote:

---

I'm kind of curious what is going on in the cyberspace arena.

---

Nothing. Nothing at all.

quote:

---

straight to WW4

---

Did I miss WW3? Or was that Chicken vs Russian Bots?

I mean if I'm commander and chief and Putin gets popped I want to have some anti-putin people in Moscow ready to bring down the Kremlin or wherever all their politicians be.

This is just me thinking from video game/movie standpoint that is not real world scenario.

quote:

---

It is a pure doctrine issue. And it's showing the overwhelming superiority of NATO doctrine over Russian. One Javelin at a time.

---

I also imagine there are a lot of Army tank commanders channeling their inner Patton and salivating over the idea of having a little tank GTG to determine once and for all who has the best tank army. I bet they are thinking frick all the fast movers, rotor heads and grunts let's just button up and settle this thing right now. Once they got finished with all the operational Russian MBTs they would just roll into Moscow and finish off the T14s Russia keeps waxed for photo ops. They could probably be there in time to roll through Red Square on May 9th (the date of their annual military parade).

shite is gonna be whistling down from the heavens all over. Not going to be pretty.

quote:

---

I bet they are thinking frick all the fast movers, rotor heads and grunts let's just button up and settle this thing right now.

---

Only the idiots. There's a reason why most western armies are scrambling to fit APS on all their MBTs. The war in Ukraine is just showing how important the Israeli APSs were back in 2014.

The MBT is far from dead. The MBT without protection from dismounts in an urban environment is dead as shite.....and Ukraine continues to remind us of that.

quote:

---

Anything that says "Russia is crushing Ukraine! Here's ten reasons why!"

---

quote:

---

Same with "Ukraine is crushing Russia! Here's ten reasons why!"

---

Absolutely agree with you 100%. I have to filter out the nonsense. And there is propaganda on both sides. But certainly Ukraine turned Russia away in Kyiv. And some of the reporting I saw showed Russia to be anything but a professional military. The reporting about Bucha showed litter and beer bottles left behind and then there was the reporting today that Russian were poisoned by spiked liquor. I'm not sure Putin's troops will get the job done for him. One regiment brought on late in the pre-invasion mass of troops was considered to be an elite unit. Reporting said at least 30% and maybe more were killed.
But one thing Putin has is other nasty weapons.

Possibly but at the same time where does the average Ivan in Russia stand. They are going to be in lines to use electronics and carpooling to the vodka factories. I joke, but I am interested in when and how the upper middle class becomes affected and when that will hit home. I don't think in these modern times your folks that have enjoyed luxuries are no longer going to be able to get them will turn on political leaders that they have had in power for 3 decades. The whole world is so fickle because of social media and luxuries

The best way to filter IMO is to look up the writer. If you do it enough regularly you can find which articles are clickbait. Or a line of progressively extreme articles. That's honestly the best way is to build some rep and slowly use it to drag readers along to an extreme point of view or make them gullible because they only read one news source and think said person is some kind of internet genius.

NYT Article on Bucha

quote:

---

Ms. Pomazanko’s killing is just one of scores being uncovered days after Russian troops withdrew from the outlying suburbs of Ukraine’s capital, Kyiv, after weeks of fierce fighting. On Sunday, Ukrainians were still finding the dead in yards and on the roads amid mounting evidence that civilians had been killed purposely and indiscriminately.

---

quote:

---

Serhiy Kaplishny is a coroner in Bucha who worked there from Feb. 24, the day of the invasion, until March 10, when he fled. He returned to Bucha on Saturday. He said that, so far, his team had collected more than 100 bodies during and after the fighting and the Russian occupation.

---

quote:

---

“They were civilians,” Mr. Kaplishny said, showing cellphone pictures of dead men in civilian clothes with their hands bound behind their backs and in one case in the front.

In the images, eight bodies with hands bound lay in a courtyard of a house and five in a basement, he said. “Look, that one was shot in the eye,” Mr. Kaplishny said.

---

quote:

---

A main thoroughfare in Bucha — Vokzalnaya, or Station Street — was unpassable on Sunday, strewn with destroyed Russian tanks and armored vehicles, downed cables and burned debris. Scores of Russian soldiers were killed, residents said, when the column of Russian tanks came under a drone attack.

Several of the houses on one side of the street caught fire, but some of the Russian soldiers who survived the blast escaped into people’s yards, residents said. Two bodies in the garden of one house farther up the street were probably those of Russian soldiers, said Kostiantyn Momotov, who lived nearby.

The men had cast off their army uniforms and boots, he said, pointing to a camouflage jacket on the ground, and put on civilian clothes, possibly to avoid capture, he said. Both men had been shot in the head. After the drone attack on the column, it took a week before Russian reinforcements arrived on March 4 and took control of Bucha, several residents said.

After that, the Russians parked their tanks at the main intersections and in people’s yards and conducted house-to-house searches, they said.

---

Tried to quote the important pieces, obviously more in full article. Seems at least mostly consistent with a lot of what we’ve seen on Twitter from accounts frequently shared in here.