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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 3/17/22 at 6:48 pm to
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 3/17/22 at 6:48 pm to
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So I know a lot has been talked about the failures of Russian armor, Air Force and logistics so far but one of the biggest surprises to me has been their apparent lack of electronic or cyber warfare abilities.

The after action reports after Crimea and the 2014 foray into eastern Ukraine said that their capabilities in these areas were “eye-watering” according to one US military observer. I would have assumed that Russia would’ve crippled Ukraine’s command and control with these techniques at the outset of the war. Obviously that didn’t happen.


Russias used its electronic warfare extensively in the 2014 war. Afterward Ukraine made a concerted effort to harden its communications, with the help of a CIA training center in western Ukraine. This program also schooled Ukrainian SOF in skills like sniping, deep reconnaisance and stay behind operations. It's been a major factor in the success of Ukraine's resistance. Good read here LINK
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75735 posts
Posted on 3/17/22 at 6:53 pm to
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I get the vibe that a lot of people on PT think they are red pilled and the rest of us are mindless NPCs when the reality is they are peddling insane theories.

They rail incessantly against "MSM" without knowing or realizing that they are slaves to an entirely different media and they've taken their bait hook, line, and sinker. It is no different than being equally brainwashed by "the MSM". They're spoon fed what to think about every single thing in the world yet very little of it operates within the realm of reality.

The fact that none of them realize that they are, in fact, exactly what they hate has great comedic value to me.
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 3/17/22 at 6:54 pm to
OMLandshark

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My list of people I get my news from:


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Glenn Beck


Honestly this explains a lot
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5180 posts
Posted on 3/17/22 at 6:57 pm to
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So I know a lot has been talked about the failures of Russian armor, Air Force and logistics so far but one of the biggest surprises to me has been their apparent lack of electronic or cyber warfare abilities.

The after action reports after Crimea and the 2014 foray into eastern Ukraine said that their capabilities in these areas were “eye-watering” according to one US military observer. I would have assumed that Russia would’ve crippled Ukraine’s command and control with these techniques at the outset of the war. Obviously that didn’t happen.

Discuss


Furthers my belief that a lot of cyber crap that gets blamed on Russia is not actually done by Russia.
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8192 posts
Posted on 3/17/22 at 7:00 pm to
This post deserves more recognition.

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Of course I’m speaking of the OT vs. Poli Board. The absolute stockpiling of tin-foil hats/helmets will give the Poli Board a bit of an early advantage defensively. But the mostly vaxxed OT possesses superior 5G reception aimed at providing a more coordinating attack.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45781 posts
Posted on 3/17/22 at 7:03 pm to
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I think a lot of the Russian love on the right comes from the fact that on social issues Russia has is very much in line with an American conservative's view (e.g. homosexuality and transgenders are not normal).


Nah. When Trump kissed Putin's arse, his followers followed suit.



Congrats you just posted the dumbest thing in this thread.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45781 posts
Posted on 3/17/22 at 7:11 pm to
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Any nation the size of Russia with Russia's resources can solve a lot of problems, once they have the resolve to do so. If Russia continues to doubles down in Ukraine, I don't think the layout of the T-72's turret is going to be determinative of this conflict.

The Sherman was never as good as the tanks it went against in Europe in WW2, but we built so many of them it really didn't matter. As Stalin once said, quantity has a quality all its own.



You keep referring to WW2 Russia but you are ignoring the fact that Russia was invaded in WW2 and the people rallied around their tyrant leader. Russia was not invaded at the start of WW1 instead Czar Nicholas II's brother orchestrated a multi-prong invasion of East Prussia thinking that Russia could race in and capture Berlin. Since Russia was not invaded and its army was defeated in the Battle of Tannenberg, and then became trapped in a quagmire the Russian people never rallied around Czar Nicholas II.

So far Russia appears to be acting like WW1 Russian (i.e unrealistic time tables, poor tactics, dividing its forces instead of using its numbers to form an unstoppable force, and terrible logistical planning), and not WW2 Russia where Russia withdrew on itself until the Nazi’s were stretched too thin and their logistics could not keep up.

You also discount an insurgency. Do you think that if Kyiv falls the Ukrainian ppl are just going to accept a government run by Victor Yankovich (who is currently rumored to be in Belarus ready to set up a puppet government once Kyiv falls)? No. If Ukraine’s military is defeated then it will move to insurgency. This is not a war between nations. It’s a war between a nation on one side and a people fighting for their nation and their nationality on the other. That is why Russia will eventually lose.
This post was edited on 3/17/22 at 7:43 pm
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38426 posts
Posted on 3/17/22 at 7:11 pm to
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Congrats you just posted the dumbest thing in this thread
let's not get carried away. There's some real dumb shite in this thread.
Posted by LSU2NO
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
1949 posts
Posted on 3/17/22 at 7:14 pm to
That is funny! It brings a new outlook on how that region looks at the rest of the world. You have to be in their perspective to understand where they are coming from. Not to agree with them, but to look through their eyes.
Posted by swervr
Everywhere
Member since Feb 2022
141 posts
Posted on 3/17/22 at 7:30 pm to
March 17, 5:30pm ET

Russian forces did not make any major advances and Ukrainian forces carried out several local counterattacks on March 17.[1] Russian forces made little territorial progress and continued to deploy reserve elements—including from the 1st Guards Tank Army and 810th Naval Infantry Brigade—in small force packets that are unlikely to prove decisive. Russian forces continue to suffer heavy casualties around Kharkiv, and Russian attempts to bypass the city of Izyum are unlikely to succeed. Russian forces continued assaults on Mariupol on March 17 but did not conduct any other successful advances from Crimea.

Key Takeaways

Russian forces continue to make steady territorial gains around Mariupol and are increasingly targeting residential areas of the city.

Ukrainian forces northwest of Kyiv launched several local counterattacks and inflicted heavy damage on Russian forces.

Ukrainian forces repelled Russian operations around Kharkiv and reported killing a regimental commander.

Ukrainian intelligence reports that Russia may have expended nearly its entire store of precision cruise missiles in the first twenty days of its invasion.

Russian forces deployed unspecified reserve elements of the 1st Guards Tank Army and Baltic Fleet Naval Infantry to northeastern Ukraine on March 17.

Russia may be parceling out elements of the reserve force that could conduct an amphibious operation along the Black Sea coast to support ongoing assaults on Mariupol, further reducing the likelihood of a Russian amphibious assault on Odesa.

Ukrainian forces shot down 10 Russian aircraft—including five jets, three helicopters, and two UAVs—on March 16, and Ukrainian forces continue to successfully contest Russian air operations.



Russian forces face mounting difficulties replacing combat casualties and replacing expended munitions. The Ukrainian General Staff stated on March 17 that Russian forces will begin another wave of mobilization for the Donetsk People’s Republic’s (DNR) 1st Army Corps on March 20.[2] Ukrainian intelligence continued to report Russian forces face difficulties manning both combat and support units and increasing desertion rates.[3] The General Staff further reported that Russian forces are increasingly using indiscriminate weapons against residential areas because they used almost their entire supply of “Kalibr” and “Iskander” cruise missiles in the first 20 days of the invasion.[4] It is unclear if the Ukrainian General Staff means Russian forces have used almost all precision munitions earmarked for the operation in Ukraine or almost all missiles in Russia’s total arsenal—though likely the former.

The Ukrainian Military Intelligence Directorate (GUR) reported several details on Russian efforts to recruit Syrian mercenaries on March 17.[5] The GUR reported that the Russian military ordered its base in Hmeimim, Syria to send up to 300 fighters from Syria to Ukraine daily. The GUR additionally reported that Syrian President Bashar al-Assad has promised to recruit 40,000 Syrian fighters to deploy to Ukraine. The GUR reported Russian authorities are promising Syrian recruits that they will exclusively act as police in occupied territories. Finally, the GUR reported low morale among Syrian recruits, including several cases of self-mutilation to avoid being deployed, and claimed many fighters see deploying to Russia and Belarus as an opportunity to desert and migrate to the EU.
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4693 posts
Posted on 3/17/22 at 7:38 pm to
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Ukrainian intelligence reports that Russia may have expended nearly its entire store of precision cruise missiles in the first twenty days of its invasion


Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54853 posts
Posted on 3/17/22 at 7:47 pm to
Sounds good for Ukraine at first blush, but also could mean more indiscriminate shelling and civilian casualties.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 3/17/22 at 7:48 pm to
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Finally, the GUR reported low morale among Syrian recruits, including several cases of self-mutilation to avoid being deployed, and claimed many fighters see deploying to Russia and Belarus as an opportunity to desert and migrate to the EU.


Man, that's actually a genius idea by the Syrian recruits even though there is no way they'd get asylum in the EU, not this time. The Europeans are very much over the migrants.
This post was edited on 3/17/22 at 7:49 pm
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75735 posts
Posted on 3/17/22 at 8:00 pm to
@sentdefender
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The Ukrainian Ministry of Energy has announced that they have Linked their Energy Grid with the Moldovan and the European Energy Grid, this will allow Ukrainian Power to be Independent from Russian/Belarusian Oil/Gas which it has relied on since the Cold War ended.
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5180 posts
Posted on 3/17/22 at 8:02 pm to
Twitter vid with English Subtitles

2:09 clip of Putin calling for the “cleansing” of the nation. Can’t help but laugh at some of quips like “gender freedom”, but overall a disturbing clip historically speaking.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75735 posts
Posted on 3/17/22 at 8:04 pm to
SEC country on the board. They are the Volunteers....

@Phildstewart
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(Reuters) - Three current and former members of the Tennessee National Guard falsely identified in a Russian media report as mercenaries who were killed in Ukraine are in fact alive and well, the Tennessee National Guard said on Thursday.
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4693 posts
Posted on 3/17/22 at 8:09 pm to
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SEC country on the board. They are the Volunteers....

@Phildstewart
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(Reuters) - Three current and former members of the Tennessee National Guard falsely identified in a Russian media report as mercenaries who were killed in Ukraine are in fact alive and well, the Tennessee National Guard said on Thursday.


Impossible the US media are the only ones in the whole war who have used the wrong footage for what may or may not be propaganda. Russian media clearly would never do that
Posted by Capt ST
High Plains
Member since Aug 2011
13689 posts
Posted on 3/17/22 at 8:18 pm to
Would be nice if someone supplied the Ukraine with some anti ship missiles.
Posted by Mr Happy
Member since May 2019
2751 posts
Posted on 3/17/22 at 8:25 pm to
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 3/17/22 at 8:31 pm to
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