re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

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About to buy Lockheed and General Dynamics stock

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I was talking to a friend last night who said he bought a lot of munitions stocks right before Russia invaded. He said it jumped up 640% at one point, but he held on to it too long and "only" made 120% on it in the end.

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Are you saying that the Ukrainians cannot learn from adversity? If so then you need to look at the difference in the military response of Ukraine in 2014 compared to 2022.

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Nope, not saying that at all. Ukraine clearly learned from 2014. Had Russia decided to invade in 2014, it would probably have been over in a couple of weeks. The Ukrainians absolutely learned, now it is the Russians turn to learn, and they are learning the hard way, but they are learning, and because they have the greater resources, they have the most room for improvement long-term.
Since the mid 1800's, nation versus nation wars have basically been wars of attrition, and the Nation that is able to outproduce its adversary in men and material generally wins.

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Vietnam vs the USA, Afghanistan vs the USSR, and Afghanistan vs the USA all disagree with your philosophy.

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Go back and read my post again, I said nation versus nation, not insurgencies, which are what you listed and are not at all the same.

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They have time to improve their equipment. However, you cannot modernize and fix a T72s vulnerabilities. Even with all the time in the world, the T72 ammo is still going to be stored around the ring of its turret behind the tank treads. That is means it is always going to be vulnerable to catastrophic explosions from a hit from ATGMs as well IEDs and mines. Russia has been trying to find a solution to that the ammo storage defect in the T-72 since 1991 and it has not found one yet. I doubt they find one now. Also Russia does not have the ability to produce computer chips in large enough numbers to modernize its reserve tanks and it definitely doesn't have the money to buy them.

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Any nation the size of Russia with Russia's resources can solve a lot of problems, once they have the resolve to do so. If Russia continues to doubles down in Ukraine, I don't think the layout of the T-72's turret is going to be determinative of this conflict.

The Sherman was never as good as the tanks it went against in Europe in WW2, but we built so many of them it really didn't matter. As Stalin once said, quantity has a quality all its own.

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The Russian people are able to endure hardships, but the Putin regime will not be able to. The main reasons why the Russian people support Putin is because they believed he was leading Russia to economic prosperity and military strength. Getting bogged down in a war that is not being fought on your soil and an economic collapse is not going to be good for Putin. If Russia had been attacked then Russian people would mobilize with a fury and Putin would not have to worry. If Putin is forced into mobilizing Russia reserves for a "special military intervention in Ukraine" it will weaken Russian morale not strengthen it. Mobilization of the reserves would require Putin and his generals admitting that their vaunted Russian military cannot defeat the Ukrainian military which Russia has been portraying as weak and incompetent. That will be trouble for Putin. That is why Russia is hiring mercenaries and bringing in foreigners and basically doing everything he can to avoid mobilizing additional Russian troops.

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That's your opinion and you are entitled to it, but that is all it is...opinion.

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Ukraine has roughly 11 million military age males available for mobilization. Ukraine also open supply lines to the factories of the USA and Europe and an open line of credit to the financial institutions of the USA and Europe as well.

The flaw in your argument is that you think that the west will lose interest before Russia collapses. However, unlike Syria, Iraq, and Afghanistan, Ukraine borders NATO. I highly doubt that Poland and the other central european members of NATO want Russia next door to them again so those NATO countries will not be losing interest in the conflict at all. Plus the european members of NATO are the ones having to deal with the refugees. Western media might lose interest in the war in a few weeks to months, but that does not mean the US government and/or NATO will not lose interest and Ukraine will have supplies and money from the west for the duration of the conflict.

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Time will tell.

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I kind of thought a lot of the pro Putin/Russia stuff on the poli board was just Russian trolls. But I assume the Russian troll farms are largely out of business at the moment. The fact that the poli board appears to be made up of real people is fairly upsetting.

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I think a lot of the Russian love on the right comes from the fact that on social issues Russia has is very much in line with an American conservative's view (e.g. homosexuality and transgenders are not normal).

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When Trump kissed Putin's arse, his followers followed suit.

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The poli board isn't sending us their bes

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I really really thought that the "Poli Board is drinking Russian propaganda kool-aid" was just overkill....and then I saw this post with literal Russian propaganda terms

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So I saw a photo and peaceful refugees who were able to escape from the Ukrainian hold talk about the atrocities of the Ukrainian army.
A whole group of corpses whose anus is swollen with polyurethane foam. So the nationalists motivate the rest so as not to give up. There are also many mass graves of civilians after the retreat of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

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I really really thought that the "Poli Board is drinking Russian propaganda kool-aid" was just overkill....and then I saw this post with literal Russian propaganda terms

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He did admit his first language was Russian. Interesting how well he fits in with the PB.

LARP imo

I hopped on PT for shits and gigs earlier today and saw some posts with a bunch of upvotes saying the OT was reddit-lite and filled with mindless lefty drones. The OT is like stormfront compared to 99% of reddit. I get the vibe that a lot of people on PT think they are red pilled and the rest of us are mindless NPCs when the reality is they are peddling insane theories.

Is Russia invading Ukraine going to be the event that kicks off the most intense civil war on the planet?

Of course I’m speaking of the OT vs. Poli Board. The absolute stockpiling of tin-foil hats/helmets will give the Poli Board a bit of an early advantage defensively. But the mostly vaxxed OT possesses superior 5G reception aimed at providing a more coordinating attack.

There will be a truce every Election Day, because frick the woke and everything their men sit down and pee for.

Don’t you have a poliboard meeting to get to? fricking whataboutism? Now? Fuuuuck