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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 5/15/25 at 12:49 pm to
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 5/15/25 at 12:49 pm to
Volodymyr Zelenskyy /
@ZelenskyyUa

I want to sincerely thank President
@RTErdogan
, his team, and the people of Türkiye for their support of Ukraine’s territorial integrity and sovereignty. President Erdogan reaffirmed during our meeting today that he supports Ukraine and recognises Crimea as part of Ukraine.

This is a very important signal — not only politically, but also personally, in terms of our friendship and Türkiye’s multifaceted support for Ukraine. We had a very meaningful conversation at the highest level.

Ukraine’s visit to Türkiye begins here, in the capital, Ankara. We demonstrated the strength and seriousness of our delegation, which includes: the Minister of Foreign Affairs, the Head of the Office of the President, the Minister of Defence, the Chief of the General Staff, the Head of the Security Service of Ukraine, and representatives of all our intelligence agencies.

I want to emphasise that Türkiye has welcomed us with a delegation of equal standing — at the highest level. Unfortunately, after learning the composition of the Russian delegation, it became clear that they are not approaching real talks seriously.

So far, we do not see any real decision-makers among those who arrived. Let me remind everyone: it was Russia that proposed holding direct negotiations. President Trump also supported the idea that leaders should meet.

Nevertheless, despite the extremely low level of the Russian delegation, out of respect — for President Trump, for the high-level delegations present in Türkiye, and for President Erdogan, and out of a sincere desire to take at least the first steps toward de-escalation and ending the war, beginning with a ceasefire — I have decided to send a Ukrainian delegation to Istanbul.

Not all members of our delegation will go: the Head of the Security Service and the Chief of the General Staff will not attend. However, the Ukrainian delegation in Istanbul will be led by the Minister of Defense, Rustem Umerov. He will be joined by military professionals and intelligence officers.

I made this decision despite the fact that, frankly, there is no counterpart for our Minister of Defence on the Russian side. Still, there are three reasons for this decision: his official role as Minister of Defense, he is a member of our core negotiation team, and fluent in Turkish, English, Russian, and Ukrainian, which is important for effective communication in this format that includes Türkiye, the United States, Ukraine, and Russia.

As for the agenda, the mandate for our delegation is clear: ceasefire is priority number one. I remain convinced that Russia is not serious about these meetings and does not genuinely want to end the war. But we’ll see if they are willing to show at least something during the discussions.


Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 5/15/25 at 1:15 pm to
How do you spell "Political Stunt" in Ukraine


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Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42746 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 1:18 pm to
John Barron
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8423 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 1:27 pm to
quote:

I want to sincerely thank President
@RTErdogan
, his team, and the people of Türkiye for their support of Ukraine’s territorial integrity and sovereignty. President Erdogan reaffirmed during our meeting today that he supports Ukraine and recognises Crimea as part of Ukraine.


I was told Erdogan is a pro-Putin cuck

Granted, he is just towing the NATO line here. Can't have a member of their status taking a bargaining chip off the table.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139666 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 1:42 pm to
quote:

Nevertheless, despite the extremely low level of the Russian delegation, out of respect — for President Trump, for the high-level delegations present in Türkiye, and for President Erdogan, and out of a sincere desire to take at least the first steps toward de-escalation and ending the war, beginning with a ceasefire — I have decided to send a Ukrainian delegation to Istanbul.

Not all members of our delegation will go: the Head of the Security Service and the Chief of the General Staff will not attend. However, the Ukrainian delegation in Istanbul will be led by the Minister of Defense, Rustem Umerov. He will be joined by military professionals and intelligence officers.

I made this decision despite the fact that, frankly, there is no counterpart for our Minister of Defence on the Russian side. Still, there are three reasons for this decision: his official role as Minister of Defense, he is a member of our core negotiation team, and fluent in Turkish, English, Russian, and Ukrainian, which is important for effective communication in this format that includes Türkiye, the United States, Ukraine, and Russia.
Well put.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38223 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 1:44 pm to
quote:

He can't even spell 'Trotskyist' much less define it.


AU is one of those people who hyperbolically posts 1984 quotes all over social media but who knows nothing about Orwell whatsoever.

But at least he isn’t a full throated Ayatollah dick rider like John Barron.
This post was edited on 5/15/25 at 1:45 pm
Posted by PoppedRiser
Member since May 2025
856 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 2:06 pm to
We should all commend Trump's effort here, but there's nothing he can do or direct Rubio to do to "further" negotiations currently. Only thing he can actually do to save lives in short term is actually strip Ukrainians of all military aid and financial aid to Ukrainian government, which means Ukrainians will surrender sooner or at least agree to give up the regions Russia has claimed. However, that means they'll still have some people left over who will try to re-group, gear up, and stage further provocations in 3-5 years, so it's not really solving the problem long-term. Certainly Ukraine could spiral into a civil war dumpsterfire, and then there is nobody to really organize military initiatives, but I that's not guaranteed. There will still be radical groups operating there causing problems for local civilians and for Russia politically.
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
4589 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 2:23 pm to
quote:

We should all commend Trump's effort here, but there's nothing he can do or direct Rubio to do to "further" negotiations currently. Only thing he can actually do to save lives in short term is actually strip Ukrainians of all military aid and financial aid to Ukrainian government, which means Ukrainians will surrender sooner or at least agree to give up the regions Russia has claimed. However, that means they'll still have some people left over who will try to re-group, gear up, and stage further provocations in 3-5 years, so it's not really solving the problem long-term. Certainly Ukraine could spiral into a civil war dumpsterfire, and then there is nobody to really organize military initiatives, but I that's not guaranteed. There will still be radical groups operating there causing problems for local civilians and for Russia politically.
Wow... What planet are you from? Your handlers gave you the wrong script for this site.
Posted by dagrippa
Saigon
Member since Nov 2004
12171 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 2:40 pm to
Way too obvious.
Posted by PoppedRiser
Member since May 2025
856 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 2:43 pm to
quote:

Wow... What planet are you from? Your handlers gave you the wrong script for this site.


I'm from a planet where I don't blindly hate Russia and hope to use dying Ukraine as a battering ram till there's nothing left. They're kidnapping people left and right there, beatings, locked the entire border from letting men escape outside Ukraine. If you weren't a Russia hating ghoul and had any humanity you'd probably see that. It's also very obvious the MSM has lied about cargo pants being a democratic leader of the free world. He's turned into a Temu Saddam.

Crying that everyone is a "Russian misinformation" agent is pathetic. You sound so frail.
This post was edited on 5/15/25 at 2:46 pm
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42746 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 3:02 pm to
quote:

Crying that everyone is a "Russian misinformation" agent is pathetic. You sound so frail.


Be honest here, are you a trainee?
Posted by John Barron
The Mar-a-Lago Club
Member since Sep 2024
17101 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 3:25 pm to
quote:

Crying that everyone is a "Russian misinformation" agent is pathetic.


Unfortunately that is all the low IQ NAFO trolls are capable of. When they can't argue against the facts they resort to "You are Paid by Putin" Regardless if that makes them look like retards because we all know nobody is getting paid to post in a thread that has maybe 15 active users...Scratch that... 13 active users since GOP_TIGER and WeeWee no longer post because they could not stand seeing information that was not Pro Ukrainian. Most of the NAFO trolls only want their daily dose of fantasy fiction like the Victoria Nuland ISW reports
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
4156 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 3:25 pm to
quote:

I'm from a planet where I don't blindly hate Russia


Too bad, considering they’ve been our enemy for 80 years.

The “I don’t hate Russia” virtue signaling is bizarre. They’re the fricking worst. Slav shite mongol barbarian.
Posted by John Barron
The Mar-a-Lago Club
Member since Sep 2024
17101 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 3:38 pm to
Posted by Philzilla
Member since Nov 2011
2227 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 3:39 pm to
quote:

Slav shite mongol barbarian.

Ukrainians are also Slav shite mongol barbarians.
Posted by John Barron
The Mar-a-Lago Club
Member since Sep 2024
17101 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 3:41 pm to
Posted by John Barron
The Mar-a-Lago Club
Member since Sep 2024
17101 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 3:44 pm to
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42746 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 4:07 pm to
quote:

Crying that everyone is a "Russian misinformation" agent is pathetic.


This bad, real bad, but calling everybody and anybody NAFO trolls is good.

quote:

Unfortunately that is all the low IQ NAFO trolls are capable of


Listen to JB, he is a model hero for all the firehoser trainees.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
21177 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 4:41 pm to
quote:

Listen to JB, he is a model hero for all the firehoser trainees.

Popped riser is just a sprinkler, not a firehose probably translation issues from English-Russian-back to English.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16087 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 4:54 pm to
quote:

Ukrainians are also Slav shite mongol barbarians.


The Slav part isn't so bad, but the Mongol and Tatar influence the further east you go from NATO nations. Don't forget that Moscow and St. Petersburg are built on actual swamps as well, more so than New Orleans.
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