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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 5/15/25 at 6:25 pm to PoppedRiser
Posted on 5/15/25 at 6:25 pm to PoppedRiser
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Crying that everyone is a "Russian misinformation" agent is pathetic. You sound so frail.
Cope is a huge idiot, which you'll figure out eventually yourself
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Posted on 5/15/25 at 6:45 pm to VolSquatch
Posted on 5/15/25 at 6:57 pm to John Barron
Russian negotiator Vladimir Medinsky made several key remarks ahead of the planned meeting with the Ukrainian delegation in Istanbul:
The Russian delegation will be waiting for the Ukrainian side starting at 10 a.m. tomorrow, and expects them to arrive as scheduled.
Moscow held a productive meeting with Turkish Foreign Minister Hakan Fidan, during which it clearly outlined its position.
The Russian delegation has arrived in Istanbul for direct, bilateral talks with Ukraine—without any preconditions.
The Russian delegation will be waiting for the Ukrainian side starting at 10 a.m. tomorrow, and expects them to arrive as scheduled.
Moscow held a productive meeting with Turkish Foreign Minister Hakan Fidan, during which it clearly outlined its position.
The Russian delegation has arrived in Istanbul for direct, bilateral talks with Ukraine—without any preconditions.
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Posted on 5/15/25 at 8:11 pm to VolSquatch
Looks like I triggered Cope and doubleb (aka:GOP Tiger)
A leftist TDS loser and a neocon. Two peas in a pod.
A leftist TDS loser and a neocon. Two peas in a pod.
Posted on 5/15/25 at 8:13 pm to John Barron
Posted on 5/15/25 at 8:14 pm to AU86
How did you know?
Posted on 5/15/25 at 8:22 pm to John Barron
Posted on 5/15/25 at 8:26 pm to John Barron
Oh shite it may be less than three days now comrades!
Posted on 5/15/25 at 8:43 pm to Camp Randall
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Oh shite it may be less than three days now comrades!
Another breakthrough?
Posted on 5/15/25 at 10:10 pm to John Barron
More meat for the slaughter.
Posted on 5/15/25 at 11:46 pm to CitizenK
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The Slav part isn't so bad, but the Mongol and Tatar influence the further east you go from NATO nations. Don't forget that Moscow and St. Petersburg are built on actual swamps as well, more so than New Orleans.
This is straight out of hardcore Ukro fables that Ukrainians are somehow more Westernized than Russians. If anything it's the opposite. I've yet to see Russians tie one another to lamp posts with shrink wrap, kidnap men into vans while beating them to be sent to the frontline, and pose with caught men at the borders who tried to flee to Moldova or Romania. Make matters worse, their corruption even during most testing time hasn't gone down, there's scandal after scandal of high profile Ukrianians stealing and taking massive bribes in military procurement, conscription, and humanitarian areas. How is this better than Russia?
Last I recall, Russian queens and kings had lineage to Germany/Prussia and formed close royal ties with Western nations. St. Petersburg and Moscow were sped up to "westernize" and "civilize" while Ukrainan peasants were the least developed and overlooked in terms of giving opportunities, much like Russian peasants in the far east. It didn't matter if they were in the east or west of Russia and Ukraine was a Western part of Russian empire for several centuries. Kiev was populated by Russians and Ukrainian peasants were moved to the farmlands. Russian empire also tried to get rid of Ukrainian speak, which was predominantly spoken by peasants on the outskirts of Russia.
This post was edited on 5/15/25 at 11:48 pm
Posted on 5/16/25 at 3:17 am to PoppedRiser
quote:Yet the entire West has been supporting Ukraine in this war.
This is straight out of hardcore Ukro fables that Ukrainians are somehow more Westernized than Russians.
quote:Reminds us of the old Polish saying, "When Russians are accusing, they are actually confessing."
I've yet to see Russians tie one another to lamp posts with shrink wrap, kidnap men into vans while beating them to be sent to the frontline, and pose with caught men at the borders who tried to flee to Moldova or Romania. Make matters worse, their corruption even during most testing time hasn't gone down, there's scandal after scandal of high profile Ukrianians stealing and taking massive bribes in military procurement, conscription, and humanitarian areas. How is this better than Russia?
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Last I recall, Russian queens and kings had lineage to Germany/Prussia and formed close royal ties with Western nations. St. Petersburg and Moscow were sped up to "westernize" and "civilize" while Ukrainan peasants were the least developed and overlooked in terms of giving opportunities, much like Russian peasants in the far east. It didn't matter if they were in the east or west of Russia and Ukraine was a Western part of Russian empire for several centuries. Kiev was populated by Russians and Ukrainian peasants were moved to the farmlands. Russian empire also tried to get rid of Ukrainian speak, which was predominantly spoken by peasants on the outskirts of Russia.
Your drive-by history is amusing yet totally irrelevant to the present issues. But since it's Friday, for amusement sake I'll bite. Here it is in black and white -
Kyiv was founded in 482 AD and Moscow as a place name didn't appear in any records until 1147.
In case your English comprehension is limited to the cut-and-paste chunks from the playbook they gave you, here it is in full color:
Posted on 5/16/25 at 6:22 am to PoppedRiser
ISW May 15 2025 Update
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Key Takeaways:
Russian President Vladimir Putin rejected Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky's invitation to engage in bilateral negotiations in Istanbul and continues refusing to offer concessions to end the war in Ukraine.
The Russian delegation in Istanbul does not include officials in Putin's innermost circle and is largely the same delegation that Russia sent to the Russian-Ukrainian negotiations in 2022 in Istanbul.
Medinsky explicitly described the May 2025 Russian-Ukrainian negotiations in Istanbul as a continuation of the early 2022 Istanbul negotiations during which Russia issued demands that were tantamount to Ukraine's complete capitulation.
Medinsky also reiterated Putin's longstanding demands that any resolution to the war must result in regime change in Ukraine and restrictions on NATO.
Reported Kremlin instructions to Russian media explaining how to cover the Istanbul negotiations indicate that the Kremlin is preparing the Russian population for a longer war in Ukraine and is not interested in engaging in good-faith negotiations that require compromises from both sides.
Ukrainian forces recently advanced near Toretsk, and Russian forces recently advanced near Lyman, Novopavlivka, and Velyka Novosilka.
Posted on 5/16/25 at 6:35 am to StormyMcMan
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Ukrainian and Russian officials meet for first face-to-face talks in three years in Türkiye.
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Ukrainian and Russian officials meet for first face-to-face talks in three years in Türkiye.
This post was edited on 5/16/25 at 6:37 am
Posted on 5/16/25 at 7:01 am to PoppedRiser
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This is straight out of hardcore Ukro fables that Ukrainians are somehow more Westernized than Russians.
This has been a plain as day for decades.
You are either straight up Russian or straight up stupid.
Posted on 5/16/25 at 7:13 am to PoppedRiser
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Make matters worse, their corruption even during most testing time hasn't gone down, there's scandal after scandal of high profile Ukrianians stealing and taking massive bribes in military procurement, conscription, and humanitarian areas.
Another example of this happened last week. Another high profile Ukrainian military figure was busted for stealing money. It is baked into that society. Lingering effects of that communist system.
Posted on 5/16/25 at 7:15 am to PoppedRiser
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PoppedRiser
Another Russian troll farm bot.
Mods need to crack down.
Posted on 5/16/25 at 7:19 am to PoppedRiser
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How is this better than Russia?
Ukraine never put up an iron curtain to keep Eastern Europe captive.
Ukraine never cut deals with Nazis to carve up Eastern Europe.
Ukraine never attacked their neighbors.
And then there’s the Oligargs, the gulags and Siberia.
Don’t tell me Russia is better than Ukraine, rookie.
Posted on 5/16/25 at 7:22 am to Coeur du Tigre
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This is straight out of hardcore Ukro fables that Ukrainians are somehow more Westernized than Russians.
Not sure why this is important, but its factually correct
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Yet the entire West has been supporting Ukraine in this war.
We support several countries we have almost nothing in common with. What does the west have in common with Taiwan?
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Your drive-by history is amusing yet totally irrelevant to the present issues. But since it's Friday, for amusement sake I'll bite. Here it is in black and white -
You're talking about 482 AD when the history starting around the period of the Crimean Khanate is far more relevant. Talk about drive-by history
Posted on 5/16/25 at 7:22 am to Coeur du Tigre
You visited any beaches lately?
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