re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

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Ukraine never put up an iron curtain to keep Eastern Europe captive.
Ukraine never cut deals with Nazis to carve up Eastern Europe.
Ukraine never attacked their neighbors.
And then there’s the Oligargs, the gulags and Siberia.

Don’t tell me Russia is better than Ukraine, rookie.

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The current iteration of Russia is responsible for exactly one of those

You're just an old man who had to hide under a desk in school because of the Soviet Union and never got over it.

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Don’t tell me Russia is better than Ukraine, rookie.

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The irony is that ethnic Ukrainians undoubtedly had their hands in all of these as well as members of the Soviet Union

If we were alll Chinese you all would be sky screaming about how we should hate Mongolia in the present because of Genghis Khan.

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Ukraine never put up an iron curtain to keep Eastern Europe captive.

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Oh, boy. I hate to be break it to you but Ukrainians were a strategic part of USSR and played integral role in politics and many were in top leadership positions. Kruschev was pretty much a lifelong Ukrinainian who lived in Ukraine most of his life and is one of many who can be responsible for Cold War escalation, although it's impossible to blame anyone individually.

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Ukraine never cut deals with Nazis to carve up Eastern Europe.

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Right, they just got occupied by Nazis and then formed SS Galicia division to serve under them. In WW2, both American and Soviets would be shooting at them, so I don't know.

They also had an integral part in running concentration camps for SS as "travniks", because Nazis found Ukrianians to be very useful for performing inhumane tasks other Germans maybe had reservations with.

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Ukraine never attacked their neighbors. And then there’s the Oligargs, the gulags and Siberia.

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I'm not going to make fun of you, but you have to seriously educate yourself on European history and especially of Ukraine and region if you're going to get so invested in this shite. Ukrainian Insurgent Army(UPA) invaded Polish towns and massacred numerous Poles that Polish still have beef about. There was a Polish Ukrainian war in 1918-1919. Polish won, btw.

As per Gulag, at least google. Repression camp map in USSR shows there were these camps everywhere and especially in Ukraine.

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Don’t tell me Russia is better than Ukraine, rookie.

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Again, I don't want to get snotty with you, but you have such a low informational base on the subject that it might be pointless to have any discussions with you until you're up to speed on some even basic history.

Once you do your due diligence, you'll learn that Ukraine is a just a smaller more crippled version of Russia that was part of Russia for most of its existence.

Yep, it appears so. But it looks like its' due to low information nature by some posters.

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It's a verifiable fact you can look up and I got receipts

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rookie propaganda......

Looter tied up and humiliated for trying to steal during Russian attack on Kyiv

The Mirror, March 8 2022

War in Ukraine: Roma ended up tied to a pole for theft! Their photos were misused by Russian propaganda


Photos of Romani women from the Ukrainian city of Lviv tied to poles have appeared on social media. As a Romani activist from Ukraine explained, these were women caught pickpocketing and detained in such an inappropriate way. However, the photos were immediately exploited by Russian propaganda, which presents them as evidence that the country is run by neo-Nazis.

LINK, March 23 2022

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But people in this thread knew it was going to happen. Russia doesn’t want peace until they subjugate Ukraine.

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Which is the better outcome in your opinion:

A) Withdrawing from the "disputed" territories now as part of a deal with Russia

B) Being Subjugated later

I hope there is an obvious answer there.