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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 3/18/25 at 8:39 pm to
Posted by StormyMcMan
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Posted by StormyMcMan
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Posted on 3/18/25 at 8:50 pm to
ISW Update March 18 2025

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Key Takeaways:

Russian President Vladimir Putin did not accept the US-Ukrainian proposal for a temporary ceasefire along the frontline and reiterated his demands for a resolution to the war that amount to Ukrainian capitulation.

Trump and Putin agreed on a temporary moratorium on long-range strikes against energy infrastructure, but the exact contours of the moratorium remain unclear at this time.

Putin continues to hold the temporary ceasefire hostage, likely to extract further concessions from US President Donald Trump and delay or spoil negotiations for an enduring peace in Ukraine.

Russian forces recently advanced in western Zaporizhia Oblast amid intensified Russian offensive operations in the area, likely as part of efforts to leverage Russia's deliberate stalling of the temporary ceasefire proposal to make battlefield gains.

Ukrainian forces recently advanced near Kurakhove, and Russian forces recently advanced in Kursk Oblast and near Borova.

The Russian military is reportedly increasing the number of its information and psychological operations units.




ETA
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The Kremlin stated that Putin accepted Trump's proposal for a 30-day moratorium on strikes against "energy infrastructure" and that Putin "immediately gave the Russian military the corresponding order," whereas the White House stated that Putin and Trump agreed to "an energy and infrastructure ceasefire.


I'm actually a little shocked that this ceasefire didn't even last 24 hours. I wonder how Trump will respond if he acknowledges it
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Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 3/18/25 at 8:51 pm to
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Trump acknowledges this or not


Acknowledges What. That Zelensky tried to enter Belgorod Russia when he was on the phone with Putin. Nobody is fooled by Zelensky’s BS. We all saw him in the Oval Office


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Posted by StormyMcMan
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Posted on 3/18/25 at 8:54 pm to
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Acknowledges What


The ceasefire that Putin agreed to.....I understand your reading comprehension is minimal after you didn't understand the 2019 ceasefire post you responded to and blamed Biden for, but to completely miss that a ceasefire was announced is something else
Posted by AU86
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Posted on 3/18/25 at 9:02 pm to
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Given the current status of the war, Russia is being reasonable. If zelensky continues to delay, you might as well throw Odessa in the mix cause that is where this is headed short term.


If this war continues Russia will potentially take 8 oblasts up to the Dnieper River instead of the four they currently are demanding. That will include Odessa, Mykolaiv, Dnipropetrovsk and Kharkiv.

If they don't take them militarily there is already talk of Russia wanting federalization of certain areas, especially Odessa. That means a referendum could be held in the future for them to join Russia. Odessa is a Russian speaking region.

Ukraine is screwed. The west has destroyed Ukraine with this proxy war.
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Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 3/18/25 at 9:11 pm to
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The ceasefire that Putin agreed


You cut off my full quote Retard
Zelensky agreed to the Ceasefire a week ago and yet today was trying to invade Belgorod, Russia while Trump was on the Phone with Putin. How stupid are you? Everyone knows Zelensky does not want a Ceasefire, he admitted that to Trump in the Oval Office. That's why Trump is excluding Zelensky from the Negotiations. He knows he can't be trusted. Trump probably told Putin to hit Zelensky hard tonight after he found out Zelensky tried to invade Belgorod when they were on the phone


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Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 3/18/25 at 9:19 pm to
Trump and Witkoff know Zelensky is the problem


"Ceasefire Talks to Progress in Jeddah This Sunday

Trump’s special envoy, Steve Witkoff, announced that details of the Ukraine ceasefire will be worked out in Jeddah as early as Sunday. The U.S. expects Ukraine to support the agreements reached during Trump’s negotiations with Putin.

According to Witkoff, the draft ceasefire agreement extends beyond just energy infrastructure, covering strikes on infrastructure in general. Washington is now working to ensure Kiev aligns with the deal, as diplomatic efforts continue to shape the next phase of the conflict."


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Posted by Lee B
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Posted on 3/18/25 at 9:27 pm to
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 3/18/25 at 9:39 pm to
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NATO is funding Ukraine to the tune of 300 billion plus.[/quote

300 million plus over three year, but in 2022 the West provided less than 75 Billion in aid.
Russia had months prior to that to get ready and take full advantage of their top 4 rating.
Obviously they didn’t and three years later they are whining about the West helping Ukraine.

2022 with a huge advantage in manpower, stockpiled weapons, economy, and about every measure Russia got their arse kicked around Kiev, Kharkiv and Kherson.

The fact is Russia has done better the more aid given by the West brcsusd of their superior manpower numbers.

[quote]. NATO should have had this wrapped up after year 2


You mean Russia should have wrapped this up by year one
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 3/18/25 at 9:48 pm to
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Zelensky agreed to the Ceasefire a week ago and yet today was trying to invade Belgorod, Russia while Trump was on the Phone with Putin


And per the reports I read on here Putin surrounded and butchered thousands of Ukrainians in Kursk and launched air attacks on numerous civilian targets in Ukraine.

Besides Putin was the one who said he wouldn’t invade Ukraine and a few days later launched his Special Operation.

How stupid do you think we are? Do you really believe we thought Zelensky agreed to a cease even if Putin hadn’t.? They are right. The latest JB is having a tough time understanding what is being posted.
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 3/18/25 at 10:06 pm to
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JB is having a tough time understanding what is being posted.


I understand perfectly what's going on. You are the one that needs stuff posted 3x for you to comprehend things. Just like with the Politico article I had to post 3x before you would admit you were wrong. You either are stupid or you play dumb... Which one is it?
Posted by Lee B
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Posted on 3/18/25 at 10:08 pm to
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 3/18/25 at 10:57 pm to
I said dozens of cities, you mention one.

Moron or paid shill, which is it? It's one or the other with all of your spamming evidence.
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 2:39 am to
You are a hero on this thread, mate
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 3:16 am to
Well, the Swedes have just come up with a tasty AA unit especially designed for drones.

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Swedish defense company Saab developed the Loke anti-aircraft system to combat drones in a record 84 days.
Dayum.

If only Ukraine had enough money to buy a few thousand... Oh, wait. What about that $50 billion of Russian money they received last year?

Posted by StormyMcMan
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 5:36 am to
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How stupid are you?


Not as much as you unfortunately

Let's try to simplify this for you

When did Ukraine say it would implement a ceasefire?

When did Russia say it would implement a ceasefire? (Hint: "A Kremlin statement said Trump proposed a 30-day halt on energy infrastructure attacks and Putin immediately gave his military the order")
Posted by StormyMcMan
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 6:12 am to
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Volodymyr Zelenskyy outlined the stages of peace negotiations:

"As ??for the territories, this will probably be one of the most sensitive and complex issues in the upcoming negotiations. The first step, anyway, is an unconditional ceasefire, even if some paths need to be taken to get there, such as silence in the sky, silence at sea. But it will still lead to silence on the entire front", the president noted.

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Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 6:32 am to
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European Starlink competitor "EUTELSAT" has revealed that they already have complete coverage of Ukrainian territory, and are ready to replace Starlink in case Trump pulls the plug.
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Kyiv has also said it looking for an "alternative" to Starlink because of rising tensions with Washington. But Eutelsat's boss Eva Berneke said the world's second-largest low-orbit satellite operator was "the only alternative" and despite "less capacity" than Starlink for now, had "perfect coverage" over Ukraine.

Starlink, a SpaceX subsidiary, tallied around 6,000 satellites in low orbit in early 2024, compared with more than 600 for EutelSat's OneWeb. "I don't think that's a big problem... for important military requirements, the capacity we have today in Ukraine is more than enough," Berneke said.

Eutelsat needs fewer satellites to provide the same capacity, in part thanks to its orbiters' greater distance from the Earth's surface, she added.
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Eutelsat’s capabilities and expertise mean Berneke expects to have a seat at the table in any discussion of European communications sovereignty. “These are highly relevant talks today with Ukraine but should be taking place everywhere,” she said.

Away from the conflict, a satellite-communications showdown has erupted between Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni’s government and opposition parties over a mooted Starlink contract for secure communications.

Eutelsat is involved in talks with a number of countries about providing connectivity, Berneke said. “Even if France or Germany or even my home in Denmark aren’t at war, people are saying to themselves that it is a good idea after all to have an alternative,” she added.
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So Musk is now doing to Starlink what he did to Tesla. He's already lost an estimated $800 billion in Tesla value, so now he can add to that with Starlink / SpaceX watching 80% of their customers flee as well. Numerous countries and businesses worldwide don't wish to take on the political risk of an owner that threatens a paying country at war with Russia with personally "turning off their connectivity at the flip of a switch".

Eutelsat was barely staying out of bankruptcy but is now the darling of Euro markets and a major part of the € trillion defense spending programs just initiated. I guess that's more of that Trump business magic rubbing off on Elon. Like they say about Donnie, "everything he touches turns to shite".
Posted by TigersnJeeps
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 6:34 am to
I am sure he has already been awarded the "Order of the Red Star" and other medals for his service to Rodina
Posted by VolSquatch
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 7:44 am to
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You mean Russia should have wrapped this up by year one



When you realize that most of the west thought Russia would have done this within a year, a lot of actions since then that seem like scrambling (because they were) start to make more sense
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