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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 2/18/25 at 11:31 am to Auburn1968
Posted on 2/18/25 at 11:31 am to Auburn1968
Posted on 2/18/25 at 11:33 am to Lee B
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It is a bit foolish to plant your flag firmly behind a "belief" without facts. You can remain agnostic on things until the facts emerge.
Yet many believe here that JB is a paid Russian shill with no way of knowing for sure.
Y'all will share what you believe on that, but not on Citizen's claim? Strange.
Posted on 2/18/25 at 11:49 am to VolSquatch
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Yet many believe here that JB is a paid Russian shill with no way of knowing for sure.
They don't believe that. That is just their coping mechanism when they hear something that goes against the narrative they believe. You see this same behavior with NAFO Fellas on Twitter. You don't see me complaining about what non sense they post because I am not scared of information. Post the information and let people decide what they want to believe. The "he is a paid Russian shill" is attempt to discredit the factual information. 95% of the tweets I post are just information about the War from news sources. You don't see me making up BS stories about insider contacts I have like CitizenK
Posted on 2/18/25 at 11:51 am to Lee B
Institute for the Study of War
?@thestudyofwar.bsky.social?
MORE: Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov Russian Permanent Representative to the UN Vasily Nebenzya also categorically rejected European involvement in future peace negotiations and accused European countries of being aggressive toward Russia.

?@thestudyofwar.bsky.social?
MORE: Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov Russian Permanent Representative to the UN Vasily Nebenzya also categorically rejected European involvement in future peace negotiations and accused European countries of being aggressive toward Russia.
Posted on 2/18/25 at 11:53 am to John Barron
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95% of the tweets I post are just information about the War from news sources.
bruh
Posted on 2/18/25 at 11:54 am to VolSquatch
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Yet many believe here that JB is a paid Russian shill with no way of knowing for sure.
Y'all will share what you believe on that, but not on Citizen's claim? Strange.
JB is a troll... you troll a troll. Trolling does not involve a belief or a fixed position, it's just about pissing the other person off with anything.
You troll quite a bit, you're doing it now.
Posted on 2/18/25 at 11:57 am to cypher
Zelenskiy Excluded as US Discusses Ukraine Fate With Russia
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy unexpectedly canceled his visit to Saudi Arabia after he was shut out of talks there between the US and Russia on the future of his country.
Zelenskiy’s trip was due to follow Tuesday’s meetings in Riyadh, where US Secretary of State Marco Rubio sat down with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov to discuss an end to the war — though without the participation of anybody from Kyiv. Those conversations have fueled concerns about US President Donald Trump’s rapprochement with Russia and his readiness to push for a deal over Ukraine’s head.
That’s left Zelenskiy out in the cold. On Tuesday, the Ukrainian president was in Turkey as part of a regional tour to drum up international support. He’d been scheduled to travel onwards to Saudi Arabia, hoping for a readout on the US-Russia talks from Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman. Late on Tuesday, he changed his mind against going.
“I don’t want coincidences,” Zelenskiy said after meeting his Turkish counterpart Recep Tayyip Erdogan in Ankara, reiterating his disappointment at not being invited to US-Russia meeting. “I’m not going to Saudi Arabia.”
“We want to end the war more than anyone else, we want it to be done in a just way and not behind our back,” he added.
That the leader feted around the world for defying Russia’s February 2022 invasion is reduced to asking an intermediary about talks that may affect his nation’s survival underlines the seismic shift in US diplomacy since Donald Trump spoke with Vladimir Putin last week.
Bloomberg
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy unexpectedly canceled his visit to Saudi Arabia after he was shut out of talks there between the US and Russia on the future of his country.
Zelenskiy’s trip was due to follow Tuesday’s meetings in Riyadh, where US Secretary of State Marco Rubio sat down with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov to discuss an end to the war — though without the participation of anybody from Kyiv. Those conversations have fueled concerns about US President Donald Trump’s rapprochement with Russia and his readiness to push for a deal over Ukraine’s head.
That’s left Zelenskiy out in the cold. On Tuesday, the Ukrainian president was in Turkey as part of a regional tour to drum up international support. He’d been scheduled to travel onwards to Saudi Arabia, hoping for a readout on the US-Russia talks from Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman. Late on Tuesday, he changed his mind against going.
“I don’t want coincidences,” Zelenskiy said after meeting his Turkish counterpart Recep Tayyip Erdogan in Ankara, reiterating his disappointment at not being invited to US-Russia meeting. “I’m not going to Saudi Arabia.”
“We want to end the war more than anyone else, we want it to be done in a just way and not behind our back,” he added.
That the leader feted around the world for defying Russia’s February 2022 invasion is reduced to asking an intermediary about talks that may affect his nation’s survival underlines the seismic shift in US diplomacy since Donald Trump spoke with Vladimir Putin last week.
Bloomberg
Posted on 2/18/25 at 12:05 pm to Lee B
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JB is a troll... you troll a troll. Trolling does not involve a belief or a fixed position, it's just about pissing the other person off with anything.
You troll quite a bit, you're doing it now.
You think asking for someone to plant their flag and give a yes or no answer on whether or not they believe someone's claim is trolling?
Is that how far we've fallen?
"I do not believe CitizenK is actually working on the technology he claimed he is". That was really easy, but apparently still too hard for doubleb.
Posted on 2/18/25 at 12:06 pm to cypher
It's probably best not to read too much in every initial step going on. It a bit like the first move in a chess game.
Posted on 2/18/25 at 12:13 pm to dagrippa
You can bruh all you want. It's the truth. I will give a recent example. I posted a tweet Zelensky said he is not going to Saudi Arabia until March. CitizenK tries to discredit the information by claiming Zerohedge is a Russian shill when a simple search would confirm the information is accurate. Claiming Russian shill is just a coping mechanism. I guess Zelensky is also a Russian shill
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Posted on 2/18/25 at 12:15 pm to Lee B
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Can we get an estimate in the burgers you've flipped of how much of your hard-earned money they're wasting?
Any amount greater than zero is too much.
Can you explain to me why either me or you should be giving them money involuntarily?
I'm OK if you want to write Z-Man a check from your personal bank account to pay for his wasted flight to UAE and back.
Posted on 2/18/25 at 12:22 pm to VolSquatch
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You think asking for someone to plant their flag and give a yes or no answer on whether or not they believe someone's claim is trolling?
Is that how far we've fallen?
"I do not believe CitizenK is actually working on the technology he claimed he is". That was really easy, but apparently still too hard for doubleb.
I don't know any of you people who are here behind anonymous screen names... I have no idea if any of you are full of crap. Some of you seem more sincere than others.
I know nothing about the petrochem industries. All I can do is choose to believe that CitizenK is being sincere. I tend to think he is...
So, all I can say is that I believe in the possibility that he is telling the truth, rather than am certain that he is not.
Posted on 2/18/25 at 12:22 pm to cypher
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Zelenskiy Excluded as US Discusses Ukraine Fate With Russia
Wasting more US tax-payer money.
Posted on 2/18/25 at 12:33 pm to John Barron
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95% of the tweets I post are just information about the War from Russian news sources
FIFY
You occasionally post from Rob Lee when he posts something that is in Russia's favor. I haven't ever seen you make a single post that would be considered pro-Ukrainian.
Posted on 2/18/25 at 12:48 pm to Lee B
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So, all I can say is that I believe in the possibility that he is telling the truth, rather than am certain that he is not.
I'm simply asking what people believe, not to be certain. There are individual words for "believe" and "know" for a reason.
"I believe its possible" is still a cop out. You have to lean one way or the other on it
Posted on 2/18/25 at 12:48 pm to Pettifogger
I believe it has been demonstrated before that Russia does have paid posters on the internet.
Is JB one? I don’t know that he is, but if he is I wouldn’t be surprised.
Is JB one? I don’t know that he is, but if he is I wouldn’t be surprised.
Posted on 2/18/25 at 12:50 pm to Chromdome35
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I haven't ever seen you make a single post that would be considered pro-Ukrainian.
Because this thread is 75% pro Ukraine Sources. I post the other side to balance things out. You guys got the NAFO Fella perspective covered
Posted on 2/18/25 at 12:56 pm to VolSquatch
I never claimed to develop the technology at all, not once. Go diddle you 3rd grade friends.
Silicon Valley was originally established to develop tech for the US military. The internet was in use within the US government long before we had access to it.
Silicon Valley was originally established to develop tech for the US military. The internet was in use within the US government long before we had access to it.
Posted on 2/18/25 at 1:02 pm to doubleb
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I believe it has been demonstrated before
You are projecting now. USAID was actually paying for NAFO troll farms. You seem so fixated on accusing people of being paid shills. Would not be surprised if you were actually the paid shill
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I believe it has been demonstrated before that Russia does have paid posters on the internet.
Is JB one? I don’t know that he is, but if he is I wouldn’t be surprised.
He's probably too hamfisted and obvious... he's more of just a useful disseminator of Russian dis-info...
Honestly, reading about how Russian bots work on social media, they probably would be more likely to be like... ME! My mere presence here as a Democrat who was pro-Ukraine made some people switch sides and become more pro-Russian... that's how you manipulate Americans, using their own biases to make them think they are deciding to do things they might have thought more about, otherwise.
And that's why most Americans can't spot the Russian bots on social media. They're on every side taking every position and using every trick in the book to get the outcome they want...
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