Started By
Message

re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 2/18/25 at 11:31 am to
Posted by John Barron
The Mar-a-Lago Club
Member since Sep 2024
17101 posts
Posted on 2/18/25 at 11:31 am to
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8364 posts
Posted on 2/18/25 at 11:33 am to
quote:

It is a bit foolish to plant your flag firmly behind a "belief" without facts. You can remain agnostic on things until the facts emerge.



Yet many believe here that JB is a paid Russian shill with no way of knowing for sure.

Y'all will share what you believe on that, but not on Citizen's claim? Strange.
Posted by John Barron
The Mar-a-Lago Club
Member since Sep 2024
17101 posts
Posted on 2/18/25 at 11:49 am to
quote:

Yet many believe here that JB is a paid Russian shill with no way of knowing for sure.



They don't believe that. That is just their coping mechanism when they hear something that goes against the narrative they believe. You see this same behavior with NAFO Fellas on Twitter. You don't see me complaining about what non sense they post because I am not scared of information. Post the information and let people decide what they want to believe. The "he is a paid Russian shill" is attempt to discredit the factual information. 95% of the tweets I post are just information about the War from news sources. You don't see me making up BS stories about insider contacts I have like CitizenK
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5645 posts
Posted on 2/18/25 at 11:51 am to
Institute for the Study of War
?@thestudyofwar.bsky.social?

MORE: Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov Russian Permanent Representative to the UN Vasily Nebenzya also categorically rejected European involvement in future peace negotiations and accused European countries of being aggressive toward Russia.

Posted by dagrippa
Saigon
Member since Nov 2004
12171 posts
Posted on 2/18/25 at 11:53 am to
quote:

95% of the tweets I post are just information about the War from news sources.


bruh
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3945 posts
Posted on 2/18/25 at 11:54 am to
quote:


Yet many believe here that JB is a paid Russian shill with no way of knowing for sure.

Y'all will share what you believe on that, but not on Citizen's claim? Strange.


JB is a troll... you troll a troll. Trolling does not involve a belief or a fixed position, it's just about pissing the other person off with anything.

You troll quite a bit, you're doing it now.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5645 posts
Posted on 2/18/25 at 11:57 am to
Zelenskiy Excluded as US Discusses Ukraine Fate With Russia

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy unexpectedly canceled his visit to Saudi Arabia after he was shut out of talks there between the US and Russia on the future of his country.

Zelenskiy’s trip was due to follow Tuesday’s meetings in Riyadh, where US Secretary of State Marco Rubio sat down with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov to discuss an end to the war — though without the participation of anybody from Kyiv. Those conversations have fueled concerns about US President Donald Trump’s rapprochement with Russia and his readiness to push for a deal over Ukraine’s head.

That’s left Zelenskiy out in the cold. On Tuesday, the Ukrainian president was in Turkey as part of a regional tour to drum up international support. He’d been scheduled to travel onwards to Saudi Arabia, hoping for a readout on the US-Russia talks from Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman. Late on Tuesday, he changed his mind against going.

“I don’t want coincidences,” Zelenskiy said after meeting his Turkish counterpart Recep Tayyip Erdogan in Ankara, reiterating his disappointment at not being invited to US-Russia meeting. “I’m not going to Saudi Arabia.”

“We want to end the war more than anyone else, we want it to be done in a just way and not behind our back,” he added.

That the leader feted around the world for defying Russia’s February 2022 invasion is reduced to asking an intermediary about talks that may affect his nation’s survival underlines the seismic shift in US diplomacy since Donald Trump spoke with Vladimir Putin last week.

Bloomberg
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8364 posts
Posted on 2/18/25 at 12:05 pm to
quote:

JB is a troll... you troll a troll. Trolling does not involve a belief or a fixed position, it's just about pissing the other person off with anything.

You troll quite a bit, you're doing it now.


You think asking for someone to plant their flag and give a yes or no answer on whether or not they believe someone's claim is trolling?

Is that how far we've fallen?

"I do not believe CitizenK is actually working on the technology he claimed he is". That was really easy, but apparently still too hard for doubleb.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
26469 posts
Posted on 2/18/25 at 12:06 pm to
It's probably best not to read too much in every initial step going on. It a bit like the first move in a chess game.

Posted by John Barron
The Mar-a-Lago Club
Member since Sep 2024
17101 posts
Posted on 2/18/25 at 12:13 pm to
You can bruh all you want. It's the truth. I will give a recent example. I posted a tweet Zelensky said he is not going to Saudi Arabia until March. CitizenK tries to discredit the information by claiming Zerohedge is a Russian shill when a simple search would confirm the information is accurate. Claiming Russian shill is just a coping mechanism. I guess Zelensky is also a Russian shill

Loading Twitter/X Embed...
If tweet fails to load, click here.


This post was edited on 2/18/25 at 12:15 pm
Posted by Stinger_1066
On a golf course
Member since Jul 2021
2899 posts
Posted on 2/18/25 at 12:15 pm to
quote:

Can we get an estimate in the burgers you've flipped of how much of your hard-earned money they're wasting?


Any amount greater than zero is too much.

Can you explain to me why either me or you should be giving them money involuntarily?

I'm OK if you want to write Z-Man a check from your personal bank account to pay for his wasted flight to UAE and back.
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3945 posts
Posted on 2/18/25 at 12:22 pm to
quote:

You think asking for someone to plant their flag and give a yes or no answer on whether or not they believe someone's claim is trolling?

Is that how far we've fallen?

"I do not believe CitizenK is actually working on the technology he claimed he is". That was really easy, but apparently still too hard for doubleb.


I don't know any of you people who are here behind anonymous screen names... I have no idea if any of you are full of crap. Some of you seem more sincere than others.

I know nothing about the petrochem industries. All I can do is choose to believe that CitizenK is being sincere. I tend to think he is...

So, all I can say is that I believe in the possibility that he is telling the truth, rather than am certain that he is not.
Posted by Stinger_1066
On a golf course
Member since Jul 2021
2899 posts
Posted on 2/18/25 at 12:22 pm to
quote:

Zelenskiy Excluded as US Discusses Ukraine Fate With Russia


Wasting more US tax-payer money.
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8164 posts
Posted on 2/18/25 at 12:33 pm to
quote:

95% of the tweets I post are just information about the War from Russian news sources


FIFY

You occasionally post from Rob Lee when he posts something that is in Russia's favor. I haven't ever seen you make a single post that would be considered pro-Ukrainian.

Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8364 posts
Posted on 2/18/25 at 12:48 pm to
quote:

So, all I can say is that I believe in the possibility that he is telling the truth, rather than am certain that he is not.



I'm simply asking what people believe, not to be certain. There are individual words for "believe" and "know" for a reason.

"I believe its possible" is still a cop out. You have to lean one way or the other on it
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42606 posts
Posted on 2/18/25 at 12:48 pm to
I believe it has been demonstrated before that Russia does have paid posters on the internet.
Is JB one? I don’t know that he is, but if he is I wouldn’t be surprised.
Posted by John Barron
The Mar-a-Lago Club
Member since Sep 2024
17101 posts
Posted on 2/18/25 at 12:50 pm to
quote:

I haven't ever seen you make a single post that would be considered pro-Ukrainian.


Because this thread is 75% pro Ukraine Sources. I post the other side to balance things out. You guys got the NAFO Fella perspective covered
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15671 posts
Posted on 2/18/25 at 12:56 pm to
I never claimed to develop the technology at all, not once. Go diddle you 3rd grade friends.

Silicon Valley was originally established to develop tech for the US military. The internet was in use within the US government long before we had access to it.

Posted by John Barron
The Mar-a-Lago Club
Member since Sep 2024
17101 posts
Posted on 2/18/25 at 1:02 pm to
quote:

I believe it has been demonstrated before


You are projecting now. USAID was actually paying for NAFO troll farms. You seem so fixated on accusing people of being paid shills. Would not be surprised if you were actually the paid shill


Loading Twitter/X Embed...
If tweet fails to load, click here.
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3945 posts
Posted on 2/18/25 at 1:30 pm to
quote:


I believe it has been demonstrated before that Russia does have paid posters on the internet.
Is JB one? I don’t know that he is, but if he is I wouldn’t be surprised.


He's probably too hamfisted and obvious... he's more of just a useful disseminator of Russian dis-info...

Honestly, reading about how Russian bots work on social media, they probably would be more likely to be like... ME! My mere presence here as a Democrat who was pro-Ukraine made some people switch sides and become more pro-Russian... that's how you manipulate Americans, using their own biases to make them think they are deciding to do things they might have thought more about, otherwise.

And that's why most Americans can't spot the Russian bots on social media. They're on every side taking every position and using every trick in the book to get the outcome they want...
This post was edited on 2/18/25 at 1:31 pm
first pageprev pagePage 4557 of 5046Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News
Follow us on X, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting.

FacebookXInstagram