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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 1/21/25 at 6:54 pm to CitizenK
Posted on 1/21/25 at 6:54 pm to CitizenK
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Try harder
Telling the Truth is easy. You should try it sometimes. Meanwhile....Zelensky acting like a NAFO troll
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If tweet fails to load, click here. In Trump's inner circle, there are "unnecessary voices" conveying "disinformation or pro-Russian positions" to the U.S. president, Zelensky stated.
"It is very important for us that unnecessary voices are not heard. Sometimes, people around President Trump convey disinformation or a pro-Russian position. It is crucial for us that Europe speaks loudly, so it is heard, and that there are more voices around Trump to ensure he clearly understands the details and risks," the Narcoführer said at the Davos forum, without specifying whom he meant by "pro-Russian voices."
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Posted on 1/21/25 at 7:40 pm to John Barron
complete transcript of Zelenskyy's WEF Davos speech He reinforces several of Trump's positions on energy and spending level of 5% GDP for security.
Davos 2025: Special Address by Volodymyr Zelenskyy, President of Ukraine
Davos 2025: Special Address by Volodymyr Zelenskyy, President of Ukraine
This post was edited on 1/21/25 at 7:50 pm
Posted on 1/21/25 at 7:53 pm to cypher
Your fellow NAFO Fellas are freaking out 
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If tweet fails to load, click here.Posted on 1/21/25 at 8:05 pm to John Barron
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Putin is not going to fall for a Minsk 3 agreement this time.
What did Russia "fall" for the other two times?
Posted on 1/21/25 at 8:09 pm to John Barron
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Pentagon Cleans House, Removes All Officials Responsible for Ukraine Aid. Complete Reset Underway at the U.S. Department of Defense.
Posted on 1/21/25 at 8:59 pm to John Barron
Do you have another source on this? It could very well be true, and if it is, I don't have any problem with it. Without a better source, I am skeptical.
Posted on 1/21/25 at 9:15 pm to Chromdome35
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Do you have another source on this?
I believe it's a Ukrainian Journalist that met with the Washington Post. Here is the original Tweet translated
Posted on 1/21/25 at 9:17 pm to John Barron
Thanks for posting. It smells like BS to me, but it's certainly in the world of possible. Time will tell.
Posted on 1/21/25 at 9:23 pm to Chromdome35
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Thanks for posting. It smells like BS to me
No problem. I guess it could be BS but to be honest it would not be a big deal or surprising to me. Trump seems to be getting rid of everyone so wanting new people involved with the Ukraine situation wouldn't be surprising. He probably doesn't trust the people already involved. I don't think this means he is going to pull aid from Ukraine or anything
Posted on 1/21/25 at 9:25 pm to Vandyrone
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Pentagon Cleans House, Removes All Officials Responsible for Ukraine Aid. Complete Reset Underway at the U.S. Department of Defense.
One would hope so. Those are the idiots who insisted to Ukraine that they would easily smash through Russian defenses in the 2023 Ukrainian offensive, and they convinced Biden that Ukraine could do it without ATACMS and cluster weapons.
Those people all need to be fired.
Posted on 1/21/25 at 9:40 pm to Chromdome35
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Thanks for posting. It smells like BS to me, but it's certainly in the world of possible. Time will tell.
Those are screenshots. Why no embed of the original tweet???
Is the answer in an entry of a reverse image search list ...
Pravda
Note that the source of the Pravda article is a telegram channel "llordofwar"
This post was edited on 1/21/25 at 11:40 pm
Posted on 1/21/25 at 11:00 pm to cypher
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Hmmmm....
This is why you are a clown. This is a known Ukraine Military reporters tweet that has been posted by 100's of accounts on Twitter. But you are acting like it is a fake tweet. That's your answer to any news you don't like. "It's Fake"
This is my last post responding to your BS post. Here is another Pro Ukraine account with 474k followers posting the news Loading Twitter/X Embed...
If tweet fails to load, click here.Posted on 1/21/25 at 11:03 pm to John Barron
The only thing you've shown so far is that fake screenshots are effective at fooling people.
until you embed the original tweet I call fake!
The screenshot is fake. Prove me wrong with an embed of the original tweet and I will gladly admit I am wrong. It shouldn't be difficult, the account is right there in the screenshot.
Footnote: To see how this screenshot has made its way around the russian propaganda sites. Copy the screenshot image (the one he calls the original tweet) and plug it into google image search. Select the exact matches option. It seems to have first appeared in a russian telegram channel and then spread by Pravda, etc.
UPDATE: I guess I've had enough fun with this. When you called it "the original tweet" I realized you didn't know about FB posts so I demanded a twitter embed.
If I were to apologize it would go something like this...
I apologize to JB for calling his screenshot fake when in fact it was created and distributed by russian propagandists, including JB, from a real FB account.
I hope at least one person used the image search described above to see the list of propagandists he is aligned with.
until you embed the original tweet I call fake!
The screenshot is fake. Prove me wrong with an embed of the original tweet and I will gladly admit I am wrong. It shouldn't be difficult, the account is right there in the screenshot.
Footnote: To see how this screenshot has made its way around the russian propaganda sites. Copy the screenshot image (the one he calls the original tweet) and plug it into google image search. Select the exact matches option. It seems to have first appeared in a russian telegram channel and then spread by Pravda, etc.
UPDATE: I guess I've had enough fun with this. When you called it "the original tweet" I realized you didn't know about FB posts so I demanded a twitter embed.
If I were to apologize it would go something like this...
I apologize to JB for calling his screenshot fake when in fact it was created and distributed by russian propagandists, including JB, from a real FB account.
I hope at least one person used the image search described above to see the list of propagandists he is aligned with.
This post was edited on 1/22/25 at 7:54 am
Posted on 1/21/25 at 11:20 pm to cypher
Posted on 1/21/25 at 11:43 pm to John Barron
Imagine thinking being up from 78k pre SMO, or 88k ytd ago is good getting your shite pushed in vs Brandon's economy 
getting your shite pushed in vs Brandon's economy Posted on 1/22/25 at 7:59 am to MoarKilometers
Russia issued ultimatum to Ukraine in 2022 to replace Zelensky with Medvedchuk, president says
by Boldizsar Gyori January 22, 2025 2:41 PM
Russia wanted to install pro-Kremlin oligarch Viktor Medvedchuk as Ukraine's president after forcing President Volodymyr Zelensky to step down, the Ukrainian head of state said on Jan. 22, citing a Kremlin ultimatum he received in the early days of the full-scale war.
"Some people came to me on the first days of the war, some people from Ukraine…They gave me the ultimatum from (Russian President Vladimir) Putin," Zelensky said on the sidelines of the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland.
"They said that I have to go, and they will change me (for) Medvedchuk (as president)."
According to Zelensky, the ultimatum also demanded Ukraine recognize Russian occupation authorities in Donbas, change its constitution to commit to "neutrality," shrink its army to 50,000 troops, give up much of its weapon arsenal, and recognize Russian as an official language of Ukraine.
"This was not a negotiation; it’s an ultimatum," Zelensky said, adding that Russia’s points were similar to those later presented during unsuccessful peace talks in 2022 that took place in Turkey.
Formerly a Ukrainian lawmaker and businessman, Medvedchuk was among the leading pro-Russian figures in Ukraine before the full-scale invasion. He maintained close personal relations with Putin, the godfather of the oligarch's daughter.
Medvedchuk was detained by Ukrainian authorities in 2022 and exchanged with Russia later the same year.
The Kyiv Independent
by Boldizsar Gyori January 22, 2025 2:41 PM
Russia wanted to install pro-Kremlin oligarch Viktor Medvedchuk as Ukraine's president after forcing President Volodymyr Zelensky to step down, the Ukrainian head of state said on Jan. 22, citing a Kremlin ultimatum he received in the early days of the full-scale war.
"Some people came to me on the first days of the war, some people from Ukraine…They gave me the ultimatum from (Russian President Vladimir) Putin," Zelensky said on the sidelines of the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland.
"They said that I have to go, and they will change me (for) Medvedchuk (as president)."
According to Zelensky, the ultimatum also demanded Ukraine recognize Russian occupation authorities in Donbas, change its constitution to commit to "neutrality," shrink its army to 50,000 troops, give up much of its weapon arsenal, and recognize Russian as an official language of Ukraine.
"This was not a negotiation; it’s an ultimatum," Zelensky said, adding that Russia’s points were similar to those later presented during unsuccessful peace talks in 2022 that took place in Turkey.
Formerly a Ukrainian lawmaker and businessman, Medvedchuk was among the leading pro-Russian figures in Ukraine before the full-scale invasion. He maintained close personal relations with Putin, the godfather of the oligarch's daughter.
Medvedchuk was detained by Ukrainian authorities in 2022 and exchanged with Russia later the same year.
The Kyiv Independent
Posted on 1/22/25 at 7:59 am to John Barron
RUSSIA IS DOING JUST FINE
Posted on 1/22/25 at 8:11 am to Camp Randall
Will the US have to send troops to Russia to restore order when it collapses?
Posted on 1/22/25 at 8:47 am to CitizenK
Posted on 1/22/25 at 8:59 am to CitizenK
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Will the US have to send troops to Russia
There are a few posters who would get off on that
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