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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 11/22/24 at 1:19 pm to Stinger_1066
Posted on 11/22/24 at 1:19 pm to Stinger_1066
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Does DJT, Jr count?
No, why tf would he
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Posted on 11/22/24 at 1:22 pm to Lee B
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Putin saying he didn't want Trump to win: "PLEASE DON'T THROW ME IN THAT BRIAR PATCH!!!"
Great reference
Posted on 11/22/24 at 1:25 pm to Lee B
The thing about Stalin and the Soviet leaders that followed him is that they KNEW they were outmatched by the US military and the West, economically. They feared us for both... increasingly they realized they couldn't win.
Putin realizes it, too, but his tact is to convince the rest of the world and as many Americans as possible that it is an illusion and the US is as corrupt and weak as he is...
Putin realizes it, too, but his tact is to convince the rest of the world and as many Americans as possible that it is an illusion and the US is as corrupt and weak as he is...
Posted on 11/22/24 at 1:37 pm to CitizenK
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Trump, the man himself, said to Joe Rogan that the "Deep State" is just the giant bureaucracy, nothing more.
And our founders put that giant bureaucracy in place to preserve the government and constitutional republic from the whims of the people granted democratic representation. Change is purposefully slow, complicated, and had to have the overwhelming support of a sizable majority and still has different ways to be challenged.
The Senate was not directly elected by the people, originally... it was set up to not be a political body in the sens of the population, but to act in the interests of the individual states and the government as a whole. When we switched to directly electing Senators we made it another circus, though we reached that point because of scandals and corruption.
Posted on 11/22/24 at 1:45 pm to Lee B
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How is Biden going to return the nuclear weapons that Russia got from Ukraine back to Ukraine, exactly?
LOL
Our boy thought he had some good information to share
Posted on 11/22/24 at 1:46 pm to Lee B
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At this point, as the incoming President, he would have to be briefed that it was happening, at the least...
And I think this was in response to that...
THE HILL: Putin is sending a not-so-friendly message to Trump
Posted on 11/22/24 at 1:56 pm to Chromdome35
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There is no chance the US will leave NATO. I fully support Trump in his efforts to make the NATO member states pay their agreed-upon portion.
I challenge you to provide just one direct quote from Trump, in which he floated the possibility of leaving NATO and I'm not talking about "Unnamed sources say", provide a direct quote, bet you can't.
John Bolton swears he tried to do it, at a NATO summit... just out of the blue, but he knew absolutely nothing about what it really even was and how it worked. Other cabinet officials are on the record as saying he insisted he wanted to do it to them, and got pissy when they'd tell him "you can't just leave NATO... it doesn't work that way."
So either it's just his usual way of getting his way in negotiations by being unreasonable and forcing the other parties to cede to him (remember the stuff with messing with relations with Denmark because they didn't jump at his strange public offer to buy Greenland... which apparently he's going to try to do again)...
or... he really does want to gut NATO, in which case...
Posted on 11/22/24 at 1:59 pm to Stinger_1066
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Has anyone else noticed that Trump has not spoken out against the Biden administration's decision to let Ukraine actually use the weapons that we have provided to them?
Does DJT, Jr count?
Is DJT Jr Preisdent-elect or is DJT President-elect?
Posted on 11/22/24 at 2:02 pm to Lee B
I don't believe anything coming out of Bolton's mouth; the dude is a snake.
Regardless, The US isn't leaving NATO.
Regardless, The US isn't leaving NATO.
Posted on 11/22/24 at 2:06 pm to Lee B
The biggest thing about NATO is that it is like a Sam's Club or Costco membership for arms customers...
When Trump is saying "European countries should pay their share," it means they should spend more money on defense, which means buying more arms from American Defense Contractors, basically.
If he pulls out of NATO he would probably screw that up a bit, as far as the US not dictating the accepted weapons systems and creating a hole for other countries to grab more market share. For this reason, I don't think he'd actually do it...
NEWSWEEK: Will Trump Withdraw US From NATO? What Analysts Said
If he does actually withdraw... and I'm siding on it being unlikely, I would have to agree with the "Manchurian Candidate" view of him, because that would not be in the interests of the US but Putin.
When Trump is saying "European countries should pay their share," it means they should spend more money on defense, which means buying more arms from American Defense Contractors, basically.
If he pulls out of NATO he would probably screw that up a bit, as far as the US not dictating the accepted weapons systems and creating a hole for other countries to grab more market share. For this reason, I don't think he'd actually do it...
NEWSWEEK: Will Trump Withdraw US From NATO? What Analysts Said
If he does actually withdraw... and I'm siding on it being unlikely, I would have to agree with the "Manchurian Candidate" view of him, because that would not be in the interests of the US but Putin.
Posted on 11/22/24 at 2:48 pm to Lee B
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And our founders put that giant bureaucracy in place to preserve the government and constitutional republic from the whims of the people granted democratic representation.
HUH????
Surely you jest. There was little bureaucracy before FDR. It's grown by leaps and bounds since the EPA was formed under Nixon
Posted on 11/22/24 at 2:48 pm to Stinger_1066
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Russia also back North Vietnam. Remember the "domino theory"? It didn't happen. Turns out Vietnam simply wanted to throw off the yoke of colonialism.
Laos and Cambodia fell with S Vietnam. Thailand held on, but could they have if the US rolled over in Vietnam? Perhaps, but my point is American resolve took its toll on the Commies.
Will US and NATO resolve stop Russia now. I sure hope so.
Posted on 11/22/24 at 3:23 pm to CitizenK
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HUH????
Surely you jest. There was little bureaucracy before FDR. It's grown by leaps and bounds since the EPA was formed under Nixon
no, there was always bureaucracy, from the start... and the big enlargement of it happened under Andrew Jackson. Governments have to have bureaucracy. The government is like an organism that has to protect its own survival. At the point when that becomes completely counter to the interests of the citizens... is when revolutions happen.
We have a built-in relief valve... people can change the government and nudge the bureaucracy in the direction they want. The Left is supposed to be the change agent, the right is supposed to defend the institutions. But that has kind of been turned on its head, at least superficially, lately.
Posted on 11/22/24 at 3:24 pm to doubleb
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If tweet fails to load, click here. Putin paid Tim Pool $300,000. How much is Tucker getting?
Posted on 11/22/24 at 3:29 pm to CitizenK
Now you are correct in a way that most people didn't notice because it had little to do with their daily lives... and few really were engaged in anything (or voted, necessarily)
Edit: you are right in that I used the word "giant," the government was very small at the onset... it grew was the world progressed out of necessity, but it grew based on the framework of constitution and basis laid out for our government and system.
Edit: you are right in that I used the word "giant," the government was very small at the onset... it grew was the world progressed out of necessity, but it grew based on the framework of constitution and basis laid out for our government and system.
This post was edited on 11/22/24 at 3:39 pm
Posted on 11/22/24 at 3:31 pm to Stinger_1066
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Are you for real with this shite or just trolling?
The government is not "fundamentally evil". But the people currently running it are. The Deep State corrupts the people who are elected. Those who don't go along are subject to all kinds of false accusations
The Left believes in fairy tales like the idea that a man can become a woman. You believe in fairy tales about the Deep State, and you probably believe the fairy tales that RFK pushes about 5G and HIV not causing AIDS.
Both are equally "woke" to the idea of an alternate reality. Both are equally ridiculous and destructive. Both the woke Right and the woke Left represent the greatest internal threats to America, and neither sees how it's the mirror image of the other side.
You should leave the fairy tales behind and decide to live in the real world.
Posted on 11/22/24 at 3:33 pm to Lee B
bullshite There were only 4 cabinet positions back then War, Treasury, State and AG.
Under George Washington, Fed Employees was 0.1% of the population Today that is 1% not counting USPS. Many if not most spend their time writing internal memos
Under George Washington, Fed Employees was 0.1% of the population Today that is 1% not counting USPS. Many if not most spend their time writing internal memos
Posted on 11/22/24 at 3:33 pm to GOP_Tiger
The Speaker of the House doesn’t negotiate foreign policy.
Would you want Pelosi negotiating with Putin if Trump were POTUS?
Would you want Pelosi negotiating with Putin if Trump were POTUS?
Posted on 11/22/24 at 3:51 pm to CitizenK
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bullshite There were only 4 cabinet positions back then War, Treasury, State and AG.
Under George Washington, Fed Employees was 0.1% of the population Today that is 1% not counting USPS. Many if not most spend their time writing internal memos
Up top I mentioned you were right by size... but can you compare the original 13 colonies in any way to the behemoth that is the current United States and its 346,159,073 population?
Traffic lights go out for an hour and civilization almost breaks down
Posted on 11/22/24 at 3:53 pm to GOP_Tiger
"Woke" was a term African Americans used to describe white people who were sympathetic and empathetic to their situation and probably knew the lyrics to every hip hop song.
Now it's as meaningless of an insult as "racist" or "communist."
I'll be glad when it dies as a term
Now it's as meaningless of an insult as "racist" or "communist."
I'll be glad when it dies as a term
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