re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

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Russia aided NK in the Korean War and sent in Russian pilots in to kill American boys.

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It was more like Russia used NK as a proxy to invade SK. When the UN (it wasn't just the US) kicked the forces almost to China, Russia handed off their pending defeat to China.

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Who starts this future NK/SK conflict?

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The only plausible scenario that I can see that would bring SK/NK into direct conflict would be for SK to deploy troops to Ukraine that subsequently killed NK troops. I'm unsure how NK would react to that, but I suspect it would not be good.

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The only plausible scenario that I can see that would bring SK/NK into direct conflict would be for SK to deploy troops to Ukraine that subsequently killed NK troops. I'm unsure how NK would react to that, but I suspect it would not be good.

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I don't even think that starts it. There is too much at stake for NK (namely their existence) to start a war when they have an easy out in that case: "It happened in Ukraine, it wasn't a direct attack on North Korea".

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It was more like Russia used NK as a proxy to invade SK. When the UN (it wasn't just the US) kicked the forces almost to China, Russia handed off their pending defeat to China.

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Not really... Korea was just a preview of Vietnam, except Ho Chi Minh wasn't as much of an a-hole as Kim Il Sung (if you can believe it)... Kim was actually a Korean hero for being one of the leaders of the resistance to Japanese occupation in the early 20th Century. In America, we've forgotten that South Korea was also ruled by brutal dictators (just Capitalist ones we liked) until the mid-1990s. After the Japanese were expelled and the country was split into North and South, with Russia administering the North and the US the South, Kim rose as the leader in the North and Syngman Rhee returned to Korea and took control of the South. Kim wanted to invade the South and reunite the country and free the South from "a Western puppet" from the start, but Russia told him no. Then after a few years two key things happened... the US just withdrew from the south and left the military there with little more than sidearms, for whatever reason... and the U.S.S.R. developed nuclear weapons. When the latter happened, the U.S.S.R. was confident that a nuclear reprisal from the U.S. would not be launched on North Vietnam (or the U.S.S.R.) and let Kim do what he wanted to do...and did provide direct assistance, as someone else noted, with jets and pilots, as well as all of the tanks and artillery they'd left behind for the North, while we had left the South completely vulnerable.

I've recently had to correct a lot of young ignorant Leftists who somehow got that the US invaded Korea from the South in the early 50s and started the War... you probably don't want to know how they think Vietnam started.

Not making any excuses for Ho Chi Minh and what he left in his wake, but his motivating thing was the sovereignty of Vietnam, and he concluded Communism was the only path to achieve that, and that's had a certain outcome for Vietnam in the long run.

Kim, however, just wanted to be King of Korea and the result is the North Korea of today.

The sad thing is... South Korea still bears the scars of being ruled by brutal dictators... and its hyper-capitalist success since becoming more Democratic has given rise to an underclass who think reunification with North Korea in power over the entire peninsula would be better, and more "traditionally Korean." That's hard for me to imagine but just goes to show how bad things must be there for the poor. Similar to the people in Russia who now long nostalgically for the days of the Soviet Union, when at least there were no random rich assholes rubbing their wealth and privilege in their faces every day.

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I’m a soothsayer!!!

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Some here lack reading skills as this has been commented on a number of times in the past. It took arm twisting for SK to even sell to other nations who would give to UKR

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NK has set the stakes at total annihilation based on their nuclear policy. They can't go any further than that. It also means that they don't have motivation to start a conflict because they've already set the parameters of what that leads to,

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This is just one possibility. The other possibility is that even with this, the ruling class feels insecure and attempts other measures to secure themselves which can lead to potential conflict. The actual things they've done, remove unification language from the constitution and close means of cross-border communication suggests that what they rely on for their own security is insularity. And given that they want to completely circumvent SK involvement in future nuclear talks, the security of the peninsula depends entirely on US involvement, which may be in flux if Trump does something stupid like try to leave NATO.

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If we compare this to a boxing match IMO we want Russia standing on its own two feet, but staggered and wobbly. If they get help it will be from NK and China.... Those 3 being friendly with each other is the current state of affairs and isn't a huge deal.... but we definitely don't want them completely interdependent on each other

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None of this makes any sense.

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None of this makes any sense.

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Maybe try this

ABCmouse: Educational Games for Kids 2-8

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Some here lack reading skills as this has been commented on a number of times in the past. It took arm twisting for SK to even sell to other nations who would give to UKR

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Oh my fault for misremembering something.

Maybe I should have outright lied about something or said something completely false. You seem to be ok with either.

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Maybe they should pitch in. Ukraine has lost the most territory its lost in a single month since Summer 2022

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Uh, it really isn't that simple.

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Maybe they should pitch in. Ukraine has lost the most territory its lost in a single month since Summer 2022, per some of the BlackBird guys on X

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On the other side of the coin, Russia lost more territory than at anytime since WWII